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Old 06-19-2019, 08:43 AM   #1
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Default Tokyo Disneyland and DisneySea Wrecked Disney for Me

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Summary: Tokyo Disneyland and DisneySea are so incredible that I don’t think I will ever fully enjoy Disneyland or DisneyWorld again.

Why: Where to begin. Before we get into the splendor that are imaginative attractions and shows that are some of the very best I’ve ever seen, let’s begin with the obvious little things.

The Guests: Well behaved. Polite. Parades are simple where everyone politely takes their space on little mats and there’s no arguing or even annoying screens. They don’t even need ropes! It’s crowd control at its finest because the crowd controls itself.

The Cast Members: Disney the way it used to be. All Cast members wave all the time. There’s no idling. They love their job or fake it better than most. They tell you how long it is to wait even though a sign says it. When it’s short, they encourage you to jump in line. It’s a giant welcoming committee and you are the star.

Cleanliness: It is insanely clean. We couldn’t find trash anywhere. They scrub the monorails (which are far superior and super comfy).

Pristine: All attractions are in tip top shape. Breakdowns are rare and all effects work. Their small world and Sindbads Voyagr are two of the best examples l.

I’ll write a follow up on the attractions and specific shows later. I’ll never be able to watch Fantasmic again without thinking about this far superior version. Mickey playing the drums in Big Band Beat was mind blowingly cool.

Merchandise and prices: No real gouging here. Sodas and water bottles are $1.75. Ice cream bars and some very unique treats are $3. Merchandise is high quality and often unique to each land like good old days. Even food wrappings napkins, and cups are often themed to each land. Full immersion. The little details are Classic Disney. Even their Pirates is the pre 90s PC police version.

Fastpasses: Free and fair paper tickets. A little old school, but it works. No advance planning! Heavenly.

If you want to take a time machine to the way Disney used to run its parks, take a flight to tokyo.

Why are the best Disney theme parks run by a non-Disney company?

Again, I haven’t even gotten into the attractions yet, but I will never be able to fully enjoy US Disney parks again. This is how I remember Disney parks and this is the new standard for me. Reasonable prices. Full immersion. Great storytelling. High production value. Amazing Disney service.

They stole my heart and reminded me to believe in Disney Magic again.
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Summary: Tokyo Disneyland and DisneySea are so incredible that I donít think I will ever fully enjoy Disneyland or DisneyWorld again.

Why: Where to begin. Before we get into the splendor that are imaginative attractions and shows that are some of the very best Iíve ever seen, letís begin with the obvious little things.

The Guests: Well behaved. Polite. Parades are simple where everyone politely takes their space on little mats and thereís no arguing or even annoying screens. They donít even need ropes! Itís crowd control at its finest because the crowd controls itself.

The Cast Members: Disney the way it used to be. All Cast members wave all the time. Thereís no idling. They love their job or fake it better than most. They tell you how long it is to wait even though a sign says it. When itís short, they encourage you to jump in line. Itís a giant welcoming committee and you are the star.

Cleanliness: It is insanely clean. We couldnít find trash anywhere. They scrub the monorails (which are far superior and super comfy).

Pristine: All attractions are in tip top shape. Breakdowns are rare and all effects work. Their small world and Sindbads Voyagr are two of the best examples l.

Iíll write a follow up on the attractions and specific shows later. Iíll never be able to watch Fantasmic again without thinking about this far superior version. Mickey playing the drums in Big Band Beat was mind blowingly cool.

Merchandise and prices: No real gouging here. Sodas and water bottles are $1.75. Ice cream bars and some very unique treats are $3. Merchandise is high quality and often unique to each land like good old days. Even food wrappings napkins, and cups are often themed to each land. Full immersion. The little details are Classic Disney. Even their Pirates is the pre 90s PC police version.

If you want to take a time machine to the way Disney used to run itís parks, take a flight to tokyo.

Why are the best Disney theme parks run by a non-Disney company?

Again, I havenít even gotten into the attractions yet, but I will never be able to fully enjoy US Disney parks fully again. This is how I remember Disney parks and this is the new standard for me. Reasonable prices. Full immersion. Great storytelling. High production value. Amazing Disney service.

They stole my heart and reminded me to believe in Disney Magic again.
Donít forgot about the amazing varieties of popcorn
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The food is good in some spots and average in others. Since food is so individual, I left it out.

I did walk away with 3 popcorn buckets though. 😍
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I'm glad you had such a great time. What a wonderful opportunity!

I suspect the people behavior is linked with Japanese culture and the park quality is linked with Disney having partnered with a company who knew Disney's standards and refused to downgrade them. *cough* *cough*

Remember, Disneyland Paris was also owned by another entity that nearly ran it into the ground. Disney had to buy controlling interest and then buy it outright before things improved. Recent trip reports show Paris is also becoming a very good park.

Maybe the question isn't why a non-disney owned park is so great, but why the US parks are such a challenge! (Cans open. Worms everywhere. Rhetorical. Don't answer.)

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Hey - Epcot had three flavors in Future World West on our last trip until they closed the stand at 4 pm . . .

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Not answering because itís obvious.

I truly felt like a valued guest in Tokyo disney parks...not a wallet.
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Hey - Epcot had three flavors in Future World West on our last trip until they closed the stand at 4 pm . . .

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True! However it is not nearly as good for some reason......they had curry, strawberry, chocolate, shrimp, bbq, caramel, cheddar cheese, buffalo.......they were amazing! The popcorn buckets were crazy cute too and people would bring them all in the park.....I saw many people with 3-4 buckets!
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True! However it is not nearly as good for some reason......they had curry, strawberry, chocolate, shrimp, bbq, caramel, cheddar cheese, buffalo.......they were amazing! The popcorn buckets were crazy cute too and people would bring them all in the park.....I saw many people with 3-4 buckets!
I think our choices were plain, cheese, or sriracha. We did cheese, and I was surprised at how much I liked it. Of course, it was because of salty orange-colored dust.

I love all the snack options in the Japanese pavilion and the packaging is always eye catching. Ever see the exhibit there on cuteness in Japanese culture? They have truly elevated it to an art form.

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I truly felt like a valued guest in Tokyo disney parks...not a wallet.
What an experience. It would be an interesting reflection to share with Disney after your next trip to WDW. "Gee, in Japan it was like this. In Orlando, it was like this. Whatcha gonna do about it?"

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What an experience. It would be an interesting reflection to share with Disney after your next trip to WDW. "Gee, in Japan it was like this. In Orlando, it was like this. Whatcha gonna do about it?"

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Yup. I think if every executive had to visit Disney in Japan for 2 weeks and take notes, they would realize how far they have fallen.

Donít get me wrong, I still enjoy the US parks and will visit, but Iím showing my respect to Oriental Land company who hit grand slam after grand slam with their two parks. They really have their staff well trained and their enthusiasm for all things Disney connects with their audience. It feels like a team or a family.

The audience clap along to Country Bear Jamboree and everything is well loved including those forgotten bears. Theater was packed too.
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