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Old 12-04-2019, 10:48 AM   #201
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Friends just came back from two week Norwegian Greece/Italy itinerary. They had no complaints that I know of, but they seemed to be concentrated on the ports and tours way more than the cruise.
IMO, if the cruise itself isn't top-notch, then you might as well travel on your own (go to hotels, choose your own restaurants, be in a place where you can actually purchase cold medications etc.), so you be assured of getting the experience you want. If you don't give a rat's ass about anything other than the ports, then go ahead and take a sub-par cruise.
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Old 12-04-2019, 09:33 PM   #202
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IMO, if the cruise itself isn't top-notch, then you might as well travel on your own (go to hotels, choose your own restaurants, be in a place where you can actually purchase cold medications etc.), so you be assured of getting the experience you want. If you don't give a rat's ass about anything other than the ports, then go ahead and take a sub-par cruise.
Interesting thoughts. We've not done cruises yet as they take more time than we spend on vacations, but it is in our future. I really had thought of them as "a floating hotel that takes one to interesting ports while sleeping," so I can see that as one option. We don't generally do "tours" but this seems convenient transportation.

And on the other side are the cruises where the cruise itself is part of the fun. For us, this is how air travel is with premium classes and great lounges. We look forward to long flights and layovers. So I can see this view as well.

We'll likely end up experience both ends of this once we retire

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Old 12-04-2019, 11:09 PM   #203
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Interesting thoughts. We've not done cruises yet as they take more time than we spend on vacations, but it is in our future. I really had thought of them as "a floating hotel that takes one to interesting ports while sleeping," so I can see that as one option. We don't generally do "tours" but this seems convenient transportation.

And on the other side are the cruises where the cruise itself is part of the fun. For us, this is how air travel is with premium classes and great lounges. We look forward to long flights and layovers. So I can see this view as well.

We'll likely end up experience both ends of this once we retire

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Agree. I have definitely enjoyed flying more since I sprung for a credit card with lounge access and occasionally get upgrades. I canít quite afford international business class for my family of 5 but I can afford a Xanax prescription to make the flight more tolerable!

For retirement I like the idea of repositioning cruises. A cruise to Australia is less than the cost of a business class flight.
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Agree. I have definitely enjoyed flying more since I sprung for a credit card with lounge access and occasionally get upgrades. I canít quite afford international business class for my family of 5 but I can afford a Xanax prescription to make the flight more tolerable!
International Business for 2 is a lot less. And the international lounges that come with airline status beat the pants of the PP lounges, although some of them are OK domestically.

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For retirement I like the idea of repositioning cruises. A cruise to Australia is less than the cost of a business class flight.
We're going to be looking at those as well once time permits.

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Old 12-05-2019, 09:35 AM   #205
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Interesting thoughts. We've not done cruises yet as they take more time than we spend on vacations, but it is in our future. I really had thought of them as "a floating hotel that takes one to interesting ports while sleeping," so I can see that as one option. We don't generally do "tours" but this seems convenient transportation.

And on the other side are the cruises where the cruise itself is part of the fun. For us, this is how air travel is with premium classes and great lounges. We look forward to long flights and layovers. So I can see this view as well.

We'll likely end up experience both ends of this once we retire

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I think if want a "just the highlights" vacation that kind of cruise can be fine. Problem is that the nicer ships are destinations in and of themselves, somewhat, and you want time on board to enjoy that (plus justify the cost). Less expensive cruises are also cheaper. You get what you pay for. Could be like traveling from destination to destination in a Comfort Inn.

You are also on the ship and it sea most evenings, so that nice dinner in that cute trattoria watching the world go by is not often a part of a cruise.

For us, I've decided sightseeing is for land based vacations (unless the cruise ship is a definite advantage, such as Norwegian fjords or Bermuda with several overnights, etc.). For relaxation, I'm good with a cruise.

Everybody's different and has different tastes, so I wouldn't put you off on a port-heavy cruise, but knowing how you like nightlife, a question would be do you want that on the ship or in the port?

ETA: Just read your other post. Apparently you're not the night people that I thought you were. Cruise away!!

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Old 12-05-2019, 10:06 AM   #206
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some excitin' news back at the original topic: i just received a $50 good faith deposit on an excellent riviera spec ressie in february from RENTER ON REDWEEK at $21.75 point (130 points). have sent documents, hoping to receive final payment within a week.

redweek has been totally dead for me this year. the extra per-point money will cover membership fee and four ads i ran this year. not sure if i'll advertise on redweek after my membership expires in may, probably not. redweek had been fairly good for me until this year. nothing lasts forever.

for those who know redweek, this was a straight rental like back in the day, none of the add-on verified or we handle it all crap (holds your money til checkin i think...argh).
update 12/5 - this deal fell through with no explanation, ad covered all the major points about payment and stuff...no idea. at least i got the $50 good faith deposit for the time waste.
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