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Old 01-19-2019, 11:54 AM   #1
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I know we have discussed emotional support animals in the parks with a mix of comments both agreeing and disagreeing with their their presence. Here is another animal being used. "May my emotional support alligator please say hello to your emotional support duck?"

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Old 01-19-2019, 12:01 PM   #2
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Unbelievable. But yet, nothing is these days...
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Old 01-19-2019, 12:42 PM   #3
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OK, yeah, the gator likes people in a 'companionship' way, just like the chimpanzee a few years back that bit off the face of its owner's friend (or wash it the owner) and killed her.
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Having worked with service dogs, I can see the immense need for them. The training involved with a service dog is extensive. In some states, they have redefined the laws b/c of the number of people who were passing off pets and poorly trained animals as something they needed. Service dogs gets years worth of training, while emotional support dogs typically don't have much of any in comparison.
In general, if a dog is pushed around in carriage (which I have seen in Epcot)- it is not a service animal...and shouldn't be allowed. I am amazed by people who would go so far as to "bend/break" this rule b/c it sets a bad situation for actual service animals. In MA it is now seen as a civil infraction to pass off your dog as a service animal when it isn't.
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Having worked with service dogs, I can see the immense need for them. The training involved with a service dog is extensive. In some states, they have redefined the laws b/c of the number of people who were passing off pets and poorly trained animals as something they needed. Service dogs gets years worth of training, while emotional support dogs typically don't have much of any in comparison.
In general, if a dog is pushed around in carriage (which I have seen in Epcot)- it is not a service animal...and shouldn't be allowed. I am amazed by people who would go so far as to "bend/break" this rule b/c it sets a bad situation for actual service animals. In MA it is now seen as a civil infraction to pass off your dog as a service animal when it isn't.
Are legitimate service animal ever used in pairs? Last trip I saw a man take his two Westies the Safari at AK. He put them on the seat and lifted them up so they could watch the animals .

The CMs could do nothing but watch.
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Are legitimate service animal ever used in pairs? Last trip I saw a man take his two Westies the Safari at AK. He put them on the seat and lifted them up so they could watch the animals .

The CMs could do nothing but watch.
hahaha. I'd say no. When training the dogs we have worked with, we have to tether them into the car seats so they can't even look out the windows. It serves as a distraction.
Did the Westies have on matching vests and bows in the hair too?
Irritating.
I am glad that some states are redefining the rules. The people who abuse these rules are REALLY doing a disservice to the people who REALLY need these dogs. I never say "shame on ____" but it is tempting in this case. It's a heightened level of selfishness in my mind.
btw- the dogs I saw being pushed around in a carriage had a pink carriage, pink rhinestone collar, pink blanket...it was very service animaly.

Sorry...this is a touchy subject with me. hahaha.
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Having worked with service dogs, I can see the immense need for them. The training involved with a service dog is extensive. In some states, they have redefined the laws b/c of the number of people who were passing off pets and poorly trained animals as something they needed. Service dogs gets years worth of training, while emotional support dogs typically don't have much of any in comparison.
In general, if a dog is pushed around in carriage (which I have seen in Epcot)- it is not a service animal...and shouldn't be allowed. I am amazed by people who would go so far as to "bend/break" this rule b/c it sets a bad situation for actual service animals. In MA it is now seen as a civil infraction to pass off your dog as a service animal when it isn't.
I agree with this. I have had a few friends use service dogs and my family has worked with a local school that trains and pairs people with dogs. It irks me when people try to pass off a dog as something it is not.
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In November we noticed lots more service/support animals in the parks than on trips passed.
Not sure how many were service dogs vs. support dogs. Haven't seen any gators on a leash <yet>.
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Emotional Support Animals and how to deal with them in a humane, sensitive manner

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There's got to be a distinction between true emotional support dogs and pets. Where is the line between "he/she's my pet, but I love him dearly and I just feel so much more relaxed, calm when I pet it, hug, get kisses, etc." Isn't that a form of "emotional support"? One alternative is just to say that no emotional support dogs can be given any special dispensation-only true service dogs. And yes, I think it's reasonable to expect true service dogs to have some documentation.
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