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Old 04-01-2019, 09:45 PM   #41
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That isnít correct. Iíve already purchased and have August 2019 points in my account right now. I cannot use them until December 16th, 2019 though.
Exactly my points were in my account March 27. 2019 points. But have you tried to make a reservation since the points were loaded? There is a glitch that wonít allow you to access the reservation system. You get a message that says nothing to see here. Dvc told me to call to make a reservation. Iím just wanting to check availability.
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Old 04-01-2019, 09:46 PM   #42
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I had heard that too but it's not correct, according to my guide. He told me yesterday that you get 2020 points good through Jan 31st of 2070. That's 50 years of points.

For example, we have an October UY already, so we wouldn't get points until October of 2020 if we bought at Riviera. We would have to borrow if we needed them before then and at the end of the contract, we would technically only have 3 months to use our last allocation before the whole contract ended. It actually kind of stinks for those of us with UYs later in the year but I probably wouldn't care when I'm 90 years old anyway.

I'm not sure how it would work for a December UY. I don't know if they get any points for December of 2019 or not. I'm guessing not.

In a way it kind of stinks for those of us with later UYs. I would be paying for a contract and dues WAY before I could even use my points. I probably should wait if I think I want to buy there so I don't have to pay those dues. On the other hand, there's the threat of a price increase, so I don't know what to do.
Dues are calculated from 1 of 3 dates when you buy direct. 1) If the resort is open then it's from the date you sign the purchase contract. 2) if the resort is not open then dues are pro-rated to the end of the year from the date it opens. or 3) Should you not receive points yet (such as the Feb UY that is starting with 2020 points) then you're dues are pro-rated from the date you receive your points.

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This is not correct.

The only Use Year that starts with 2020 is February. All others do start with 2019 points. I have seen this posted many places, from different guides, and I heard it from my own too.

And, also even with Feb they don't pay any dues until Feb 2020 (prorated). It does end up being 51 years (except for Feb).
If the end date of Riviera is 2070 then it's January and the last year that points will be received is actually 2069. 50 years of points. Except Feb which will get 49.
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Old 04-01-2019, 09:47 PM   #43
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I had heard that too but it's not correct, according to my guide. He told me yesterday that you get 2020 points good through Jan 31st of 2070. That's 50 years of points.

For example, we have an October UY already, so we wouldn't get points until October of 2020 if we bought at Riviera. We would have to borrow if we needed them before then and at the end of the contract, we would technically only have 3 months to use our last allocation before the whole contract ended. It actually kind of stinks for those of us with UYs later in the year but I probably wouldn't care when I'm 90 years old anyway.

I'm not sure how it would work for a December UY. I don't know if they get any points for December of 2019 or not. I'm guessing not.

In a way it kind of stinks for those of us with later UYs. I would be paying for a contract and dues WAY before I could even use my points. I probably should wait if I think I want to buy there so I don't have to pay those dues. On the other hand, there's the threat of a price increase, so I don't know what to do.
Not sure why your guide told you that you don't get Riviera points until 2020, but it's not correct.

We just bought Riviera points (June UY) and my 2019 points have already shown up in my DVC dashboard. And even better news, since the resort doesn't officially open until December 16, 2019, you only have to pay 2 weeks worth of MF for the 2019 points. So my (270) 2019 Riviera points will cost me less than $100. I know everyone says that these first year points aren't "free", but these feel almost free to me .

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Old 04-01-2019, 09:56 PM   #44
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Exactly my points were in my account March 27. 2019 points. But have you tried to make a reservation since the points were loaded? There is a glitch that wonít allow you to access the reservation system. You get a message that says nothing to see here. Dvc told me to call to make a reservation. Iím just wanting to check availability.
My guide said the same thing that we would have to call for some period of time before they load it into the system. There is a reason for this, but I don't remember what she said.

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If the end date of Riviera is 2070 then it's January and the last year that points will be received is actually 2069. 50 years of points. Except Feb which will get 49.
You get 51 years. 2019 is year 1. 2069 is year 51.

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Not sure why your guide told you that you don't get Riviera points until 2020, but it's not correct.

We just bought Riviera points (June UY) and my 2019 points already show up in my DVC dashboard. And even better news, since the resort doesn't officially open until December 16, 2019, you only have to pay 2 weeks worth of MF for the 2019 points. So my (270) 2019 Riviera points will cost me less than $100. I know everyone says that these first year points aren't "free", but these feel almost free to me .
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Old 04-01-2019, 10:06 PM   #45
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Here it is broken down:

2019 1
2020 2
2021 3
2022 4
2023 5
2024 6
2025 7
2026 8
2027 9
2028 10
2029 11
2030 12
2031 13
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2049 31
2050 32
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2061 43
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2063 45
2064 46
2065 47
2066 48
2067 49
2068 50
2069 51

It's because 2019 is Year 1 and not 0. I'll admit it I had to think it through and write it out when we first got the info from the guides because it goes against the regular 2069 - 2019 = 50.
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Old 04-01-2019, 10:15 PM   #46
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Exactly my points were in my account March 27. 2019 points. But have you tried to make a reservation since the points were loaded? There is a glitch that won’t allow you to access the reservation system. You get a message that says nothing to see here. Dvc told me to call to make a reservation. I’m just wanting to check availability.
It isn't a glitch, I had read no one can book until 4/10... so it should be 100% availability.

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If the end date of Riviera is 2070 then it's January and the last year that points will be received is actually 2069. 50 years of points. Except Feb which will get 49.
You are correct about 2069, but that is 51 years worth.
Edit: Looks like TexasChick also showed why above.
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Old 04-01-2019, 10:23 PM   #47
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That isnít correct. Iíve already purchased and have August 2019 points in my account right now. I cannot use them until December 16th, 2019 though.
Okay. Thanks for clearing that up. My guide gave me incorrect info (not exactly inspiring confidence in him! ). Of course this makes it MORE difficult to make a decision on this because it makes it more appealing for us to purchase.
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Old 04-01-2019, 10:27 PM   #48
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Okay. Thanks for clearing that up. My guide gave me incorrect info (not exactly inspiring confidence in him! ). Of course this makes it MORE difficult to make a decision on this because it makes it more appealing for us to purchase.
I was just about to say that maybe you need to look into getting another guide.

It's a lot of information to digest and marinate on for sure. Good luck with your decision.
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Old 04-01-2019, 11:02 PM   #49
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I was just about to say that maybe you need to look into getting another guide.

It's a lot of information to digest and marinate on for sure. Good luck with your decision.
Ha ha! Good advice! He's actually our third guide. Our original guide was great but he left the company, so we were moved over to another guide. He didn't seem as knowledgeable as I would have liked, so I called and asked to be moved to another guide. Our current guide seemed a lot more experienced but he obviously didn't get these details correct, so that's pretty frustrating. I asked him directly about all of this and he apparently got it all wrong. Ugh.

Do you have a guide that you would recommend?
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Old 04-01-2019, 11:39 PM   #50
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Ha ha! Good advice! He's actually our third guide. Our original guide was great but he left the company, so we were moved over to another guide. He didn't seem as knowledgeable as I would have liked, so I called and asked to be moved to another guide. Our current guide seemed a lot more experienced but he obviously didn't get these details correct, so that's pretty frustrating. I asked him directly about all of this and he apparently got it all wrong. Ugh.

Do you have a guide that you would recommend?
Iíll send you a PM.
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