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Old 02-10-2019, 02:47 PM   #1
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Default Can the middle class still afford wdw?


I am not sure if this article has been posted before . It is a interesting discussion. Just because someone identifies with a brand does not mean they will always be able to afford it. Wdw is the best example is this I can think of.

Wdw still tries to advertise how affordable wdw is for a family of four. That family of four needs to have more disposable income each year .

I can not imagine a Bora Bora bungalow for $29 .00
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Old 02-10-2019, 02:53 PM   #2
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I have many middle class friends who can go.

That said what bungalows are they talking about. Bora Bora is new and never cost $29.
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Old 02-10-2019, 02:55 PM   #3
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lots of ways to go to disneyworld on the cheap. they sound ghastly to us, but for newbies, fine.
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Old 02-10-2019, 02:55 PM   #4
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Articles with titles like these are ridiculous.

“Middle class” is 70% of Americans. It’s a pretty wide range.

Just focus on...”Why certain businesses have products that cost more and/or increase in cost.” Disney is not a right. It’s not a bridge. It’s not a freedom. It’s not inalienable.

If you value Sephora, cars, jewelry, gizmos, or disney, you allocate and save accordingly. If not, you simply allocate to something you value more.
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Old 02-10-2019, 03:07 PM   #5
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It is like anything in this world it is an issue of priorities and budgeting. I am sure for some this is just pure disposable income that requires no thought or planning, but for others it is a choice. With planning and making a family vacation a priority, I don't think it by any means is out of the questions. The proof is in the pudding so to speak, despite price increases and a lack on incentives attendance had held or grown. Now I agree many people put no more planning into Disney then there other disastrous financial decisions but we are a society that loves credit and until the economy slows those people will not care. Our ultimate Disney goal was family and it has been the best money I have ever spent. It gives us not only something to do together but something to talk about throughout the year. We have been lucky to be able to bring other family members who have never gone and as my kids are getting older we find new challenges and magic. As stupid as this sounds, my favorite moment on every trip is when we are driving from the airport and we pass the welcome to Disney sign. I can honestly say there is nothing in this world that lowers my stress and just makes everything feel in place than that simple moment. I still love the magic of feeling you are in some remote place isolated to a world of it's own. The little things from clean sidewalks to CM who almost always have a smile, to just little seeing little Mickey Heads in the oddest of places just makes me smile. We all make choice from the size of our house, the car we drive, to the price of our wardrobe. Disney is expensive but it is a choice that requires some planning and preparation. The first thing I tell people when they bring up a Disney trip is decided how much you want to spend, because you can always spend more and there are great ways to do it on a budget.
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Old 02-10-2019, 03:13 PM   #6
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things i have done to visit wdw on the cheap.

drive own car
stay with family 20 miles away
stay in husband's conference hotel offsite
stay in a rented condo
stay in disney springs hotels, sometimes going to wdw during a "conference."
stay at value resorts
stay at moderate resorts
rent dvc from owners

fly in on the cheap with rented car or later, magic express...uber, private vehicle? methinks not. i have even taken the public bus to publix near disney, bought groceries, and then taken a cab to resort.

eat only snacks in parks, many of which i brought in, including water
never ever have a table meal
purchase hamburger meals and such at quick service
buy groceries/have groceries delivered after arrival - trip to publix.

buy no/zero/nada souvenirs. my first t-shirt was when i bought my first dvc points.

hunt for ticket deals and be fine with what can be found...don't have to have hoppers.

go to parks early and stay late each day.

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Old 02-10-2019, 03:19 PM   #7
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Arguably no, or at least not like we vacation at WDW.

But if that's your priority you can make it happen. You just need to sacrifice something else.

I can help justify our vacation budget by driving hondas while my peers drive BMWs and Porches.
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Old 02-10-2019, 03:33 PM   #8
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Arguably no, or at least not like we vacation at WDW.

But if that's your priority you can make it happen. You just need to sacrifice something else.

I can help justify our vacation budget by driving hondas while my peers drive BMWs and Porches.

Or by watching sporting events on TV instead of buying tickets to the games.

Or by living in a less expensive home.

Or getting a second job.

Or eating at home or brewing my own coffee.

It's about choices and priorities, not entitlements.
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Old 02-10-2019, 03:46 PM   #9
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Does afford mean being able to check off everything on your list? And eat 3 meals a day in the park? And spend $100pp for trinkets?

While we own a fair amount of resale points, We are pretty frugal in the parks. Most of my in park spending happens at ice cream and candy shops! I may pick up a clearance shirt at the character outlet, but other than that I’m content simply being inside the bubble.

The cost of tickets is always there, but everything else is heavily negotiable. AirBNB, VRBO, tons of hotels, packing food and drinks, eating breakfast offsite, etc.

I would argue that affording a stay inside the bubble is tough for a lot of families, but if you are fine with value resorts even that may be within reach.

What you really need to ask is how many and what attractions/characters must I see on my trip? Because everything flows from that. Based on my informal research (aka people watching) this often defines the trip for many families. And by defines I mean causes public meltdowns.
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Old 02-10-2019, 04:24 PM   #10
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What's considered middle class?

And I think, yes, everyone can go and do go. There are ways to go on the cheap and Disney allows and helps that. I notice FP released at 30 days out. Wish it were more like US where you only get the front of the line if you stay in the primo resorts. Man, I guess I'm a horrible person.

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