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Old 11-07-2018, 05:39 PM   #21
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What terrible behavior. Is there a point where it is okay to parent someone else's kids? If so, how far is too far? Personally, once a kid lashes out at my kid, I feel okay telling them that's not acceptable and they need to stop. I wouldn't feel okay taking away a bucket or holding a kid's wrist to stop sand throwing, and it sounds like that might be what it would take to get these kids to stop. Not sure what the right thing to do would be.

Is it appropriate to bring aggressive kids to the attention of the CMs? Perhaps not the lifeguards; I don't know how much they're supposed to take their attention away from water safety. Kids shouldn't get away with behavior that would get an adult thrown out. I'm not saying that the kids should be thrown out, but they shouldn't get a total free pass just because they're kids.
I’m a teacher so I have zero problem telling any kid to knock it off, it’s in my blood I guess. I have zero tolerance for bullying. “See something say something” is what we tell the kids at our school.

And I wouldn’t get a lifeguard but I definitely would get a CM, there has to be some sort of accountability for them even if it doesn’t come from the parents. If more people stepped up (but I totally understand why some don’t) these kids would know it’s not ok to act like this in public places and towards other people
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Old 11-07-2018, 06:27 PM   #22
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I’m a teacher so I have zero problem telling any kid to knock it off, it’s in my blood I guess. I have zero tolerance for bullying. “See something say something” is what we tell the kids at our school.

And I wouldn’t get a lifeguard but I definitely would get a CM, there has to be some sort of accountability for them even if it doesn’t come from the parents. If more people stepped up (but I totally understand why some don’t) these kids would know it’s not ok to act like this in public places and towards other people
I don’t even think twice about intervening with badly behaving kids. Most of the time kids stop right away because they know the “teacher look and voice”. I’m also known for my “clapbacks” amongst my Disney friends. If an adult is misbehaving, I have no qualms about giving them a small piece of my mind.
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Old 11-07-2018, 06:38 PM   #23
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What terrible behavior. Is there a point where it is okay to parent someone else's kids? If so, how far is too far? Personally, once a kid lashes out at my kid, I feel okay telling them that's not acceptable and they need to stop. I wouldn't feel okay taking away a bucket or holding a kid's wrist to stop sand throwing, and it sounds like that might be what it would take to get these kids to stop. Not sure what the right thing to do would be.

Is it appropriate to bring aggressive kids to the attention of the CMs? Perhaps not the lifeguards; I don't know how much they're supposed to take their attention away from water safety. Kids shouldn't get away with behavior that would get an adult thrown out. I'm not saying that the kids should be thrown out, but they shouldn't get a total free pass just because they're kids.
I hit a breaking point myself with kids if they reach too far. I saw some kids at a pool trying to splash and throw things at a bird. I gave them the "death mom stare" and said "stop" They did sheepishly. I would take something of them, but I would speak up.

If that didn't work, then I would find a CM. I would point out to a lifeguard to see if they are able to direct me to a good person. At least locally a lifeguard isn't just on water but actions around the edge of the water too. If they were too far back then definitely another CM. I wouldn't stand for that.
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Old 11-07-2018, 07:13 PM   #24
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I’m a teacher so I have zero problem telling any kid to knock it off, it’s in my blood I guess. I have zero tolerance for bullying. “See something say something” is what we tell the kids at our school.

And I wouldn’t get a lifeguard but I definitely would get a CM, there has to be some sort of accountability for them even if it doesn’t come from the parents. If more people stepped up (but I totally understand why some don’t) these kids would know it’s not ok to act like this in public places and towards other people

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Old 11-07-2018, 09:43 PM   #25
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Is it appropriate to bring aggressive kids to the attention of the CMs? Perhaps not the lifeguards; I don't know how much they're supposed to take their attention away from water safety.
Yes. Of course one should tell the staff in a case like this. Shouldn't even be a question. Either a lifeguard or another employee. As mentioned, it's risky to take too much action yourself, but staff should definitely be alerted.

One definitely needs to do something about the little shits.

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Old 11-08-2018, 12:37 AM   #26
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Agree lifeguard should be concentrating on activity in water so I would get cast member or security.
Also think Disney needs to post sign 13 (? ) under must be accompanied by adult registered guest at all times.
I think for safety reasons top of hour everybody needs to sit out on ledge every hour for 10 minute break. I used to wonder if lifeguards were searching for bodies ... but this break would help stop bullying and maybe some people would take the break to pee in the restrooms and not in pool. Our community pools used to use this tactic. Now it seems nobody gives a shit.
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Old 11-08-2018, 01:51 PM   #27
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We've been going to Disney pretty often for the past 5 years (2013 is when our Disney addiction started!)
We feel like it's just us, but it seems like with every trip we've taken, the people are getting more and more rude. We've gone all different times of the year too... busy times "slower" times, but the rudeness is always there. We don't let it ruin our trips and of course it wouldn't stop us from going. Everyone has different personalities and handles situations differently, but the common courtesy seems few and far between nowadays.
I understand that in a place as crowded as Disney, I will occasionally get bumped in to or even ran over by a stroller, but what's so hard about saying a simple "excuse me" or "oh, so sorry"?
On our last trip, on our last day...we were searching for a table outside of Casey's (as I'm sure y'all know, that can be quite a challenge) Someone saw us looking and offered us their table since they were about to get up. It was such a simple thing, and I would never expect someone to do that, but I almost wanted to cry because of their generosity. I realized we had been dealing with so much rudeness that whole trip, that simple act made me have hope for humanity again! LOL
I'm sure there's still a vast majority of people who still have common courtesy, especially the people on these boards. I guess my point is... even though some people are losing all manners, we have to keep ours and maybe we can make someone's day!


Edit: i’ll also add that I was five months pregnant at the time of the trip. So that also could have been the reason for wanting to cry! Lol

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Old 11-08-2018, 05:30 PM   #28
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We've been going to Disney pretty often for the past 5 years (2013 is when our Disney addiction started!)
We feel like it's just us, but it seems like with every trip we've taken, the people are getting more and more rude. We've gone all different times of the year too... busy times "slower" times, but the rudeness is always there. We don't let it ruin our trips and of course it wouldn't stop us from going. Everyone has different personalities and handles situations differently, but the common courtesy seems few and far between nowadays.
I understand that in a place as crowded as Disney, I will occasionally get bumped in to or even ran over by a stroller, but what's so hard about saying a simple "excuse me" or "oh, so sorry"?
On our last trip, on our last day...we were searching for a table outside of Casey's (as I'm sure y'all know, that can be quite a challenge) Someone saw us looking and offered us their table since they were about to get up. It was such a simple thing, and I would never expect someone to do that, but I almost wanted to cry because of their generosity. I realized we had been dealing with so much rudeness that whole trip, that simple act made me have hope for humanity again! LOL
I'm sure there's still a vast majority of people who still have common courtesy, especially the people on these boards. I guess my point is... even though some people are losing all manners, we have to keep ours and maybe we can make someone's day!

Edit: i’ll also add that I was five months pregnant at the time of the trip. So that also could have been the reason for wanting to cry! Lol
, especially about the issue of getting bumped in to by a stroller. Last January, some lady rammed DS in the back of the ankle so hard he bled and she had the nerve to try and act like it was HIS fault! It really is a good thing that he was with my husband and not me because I am pretty sure my claws would have come out!
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:04 PM   #29
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It happens everywhere, but in our experience, bad behavior is more pronounced when we are in Florida or Cancun than say, Californa or Cabo. My wife swears it is all the New York/Masshole mentality and while I agree there is some of that (I lived on the east coast for many years and still can’t believe how people treat each other in everyday encounters), I think you are correct that weather and exhaustion play a role.

Not trying to start a thing here. There are “people behaving badly” in every part of the world.
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Old 11-08-2018, 10:35 PM   #30
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Lifeguards are not allowed to 'babysit' - it removes their concentration from the needed service.

One does wonder if the parents were at the bar figuring their kids were locked in .... Yeah, I'm that bitch old lady who comments on kids behaving badly and wondering were their parents are - drives my husband nuts.
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