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Old 08-05-2020, 05:02 PM   #41
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Where are you getting your data showing that AP holders spend more, overall, than others? The comment by Chapek seems to indicate that their data shows the opposite.

Being perfectly honest, I think some are taking a fiscal statement far too personally. Chapek didn't say that AP holders were useless, unimportant, or ill-valued in any way. He simply stated that more cash comes in from the one-time visitors, and that the AP holders are helping to fill that gap in their absence. This was a statement of their business income, not a judgment of importance on anyone. To take it as anything else is silly.
I agree. At this time in the parks re-opening we AP holders do nothing to improve the picture. We just reduce that liability they have on the books for prepaid usage. "Right now" they need cash - it doesn't mean AP holders lack importance in the normal picture.
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Old 08-05-2020, 05:13 PM   #42
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Where are you getting your data showing that AP holders spend more, overall, than others? The comment by Chapek seems to indicate that their data shows the opposite.
It likely depends on how you look at it. Per visit? Yes, it's unlikely an AP holder spends more on a per visit average because their daily "ticket" price drops each time they visit. Now per person in a year? AP's are not cheap. And if the AP holder stays onsite - multiple times, eats onsite, buys a couple of things each trip? I'd guess per person they are right at the top. Local FL AP holders who have lower priced tickets and visit frequently and buy nothing? They still add to the bottom line but on a per entry basis that becomes a small number.

I believe Disney looks at it per entry which means they make statements like Chapek did. Of course since WDW parks almost never reach maximum capacity anymore it's not like the AP holder is taking away spots that others are lining up for.
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Old 08-05-2020, 07:06 PM   #43
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Where are you getting your data showing that AP holders spend more, overall, than others? The comment by Chapek seems to indicate that their data shows the opposite.

Being perfectly honest, I think some are taking a fiscal statement far too personally. Chapek didn't say that AP holders were useless, unimportant, or ill-valued in any way. He simply stated that more cash comes in from the one-time visitors, and that the AP holders are helping to fill that gap in their absence. This was a statement of their business income, not a judgment of importance on anyone. To take it as anything else is silly.
See Goofygrl's post below. Pretty much nails it. Short-term, a single visit may be better, but long-term for a period of a year or more, or over a lifetime, we spend way more and we are just about guaranteed money. Those 1st timers that Disney is able to ripoff easier? They won't come back often if at all.

Basically, while he may just be stating what he is for trying to explain away some of the losses, it shows an extremely short-sighted way of looking at revenue and profit.

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It likely depends on how you look at it. Per visit? Yes, it's unlikely an AP holder spends more on a per visit average because their daily "ticket" price drops each time they visit. Now per person in a year? AP's are not cheap. And if the AP holder stays onsite - multiple times, eats onsite, buys a couple of things each trip? I'd guess per person they are right at the top. Local FL AP holders who have lower priced tickets and visit frequently and buy nothing? They still add to the bottom line but on a per entry basis that becomes a small number.

I believe Disney looks at it per entry which means they make statements like Chapek did. Of course since WDW parks almost never reach maximum capacity anymore it's not like the AP holder is taking away spots that others are lining up for.
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Old 08-06-2020, 03:57 AM   #44
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It still hasnít been confirmed that it will be released on Disney+ here in the U.K. Although, that said, it is looking as if it will be. The cinemas (movie theatres) are up in arms about it.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-53664564
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Old 08-06-2020, 07:43 AM   #45
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Freaking ridiculous......$30 to rent a movie? Granted, its a rental forever or until you are no longer a subscriber......but it is still a rental.

I wonder how long I need to wait to see it as part of my normal Disney+ subscription?
Agreed! One of the first things I did when I bought my house a few years ago was install a 100" screen, awesome projector and amazing sound system (and very comfy couch)...I just wait for things to come out on Redbox or a streaming service. Haven't seen any movies in the last 5 years in a theater other than Cap't Marvel. Im holding out until it becomes available because $30 is a lot for me (just 2 of us that would watch it).
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Old 08-06-2020, 07:52 AM   #46
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I have now read the quote but didn't hear how he said it. Seemed to me only that he was stating they were getting more cash flow/ income from those visiting now who buy tickets and stay cash in the hotels. Yes, could have said it better but its not new news. Since they stopped selling APs they're certainly not taking in new money there from them.
So at the risk of sounding completely uninformed....they stopped selling APs??? When and for how long? My wife and I both have one that we haven't even activated yet and our cancelled trip during July was for my sons birthday (turned 3 so we didn't need a pass for him). Now when we go back I need to buy him a pass. Any speculation as to what they will do with the AP price since once they start selling again? If theres a thread dedicated to this, can someone let me know where it is?
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Old 08-06-2020, 08:26 AM   #47
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Letís move the AP conversation to its own thread. Itís fine to have relevant drift, but it really does have nothing to do with the topic and deserves a thread of its own.

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Love that idea...
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Old 08-06-2020, 02:27 PM   #49
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Not spending $30 for streaming when itís only me watching. Yes, if going out to a theater it would still be $15-$20 most likely, but I can wait until itís part of the regular Disney+ offerings, no problem.
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Old 08-06-2020, 04:45 PM   #50
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I wish Mulan was free and they charged for Beyonce that just about no one is watching. It just barely beat out Nightmare Before Christmas in August. When we signed up didn't the catch line say that all Disney's library was to be included?


Just got an email from Disney+ and it says Beyonce movie is trending. They didnt say which way.
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