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			<title>BCV resale prices?</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 12:44:21 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I know that lately there has been alot of talk of buying where you want to stay vs buying for the lowest cost etc.  DH and I bought into SSR the other year but now that DS is in school and pulling him out each year will not be an option after this year, we will have to work around school vacations....</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I know that lately there has been alot of talk of buying where you want to stay vs buying for the lowest cost etc.  DH and I bought into SSR the other year but now that DS is in school and pulling him out each year will not be an option after this year, we will have to work around school vacations. We want to stay at BCV and have been waitlisted for our trip later this month with no success. I love the Epcot resort area. <br />
<br />
My question is.... What is a fair price for BCV resales? I have been browsing all the resale sites and see a wide range of prices.  <br />
<br />
Ok.. I actually have 2 questions.. If we do not buy into BCV, what are the chances of getting a ressie at BCV at the 7 month window at school break times? We would never go at Christmas/New Years.  A friend's mother who owns at BCV couldn't even get a ressie for next month during the F&amp;W.<br />
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Any input on pricing and/ or availability during these times would Be appreciated! Thanks MO!<br />
Melissa</div>

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			<title>Total DVC Vacation Cost</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 20:32:36 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[There are many threads on MO comparing the cost of one DVC resort to another. 
 
Very few (if any) of the financial analyses/arguments I've seen contemplate that the DVC purchase and MF cost is really only a fraction of your overall cost. 
 
If you save 10% (or even 50%) on your DVC purchase cost,...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>There are many threads on MO comparing the cost of one DVC resort to another.<br />
<br />
Very few (if any) of the financial analyses/arguments I've seen contemplate that the DVC purchase and MF cost is really only a fraction of your overall cost.<br />
<br />
If you save 10% (or even 50%) on your DVC purchase cost, that's likely still only a much smaller percentage of your total &quot;DVC/Disney&quot; vacation cost.<br />
<br />
You also have:<br />
Travel (i.e. airfare, car rental)<br />
Park admission<br />
Meals<br />
Souvenirs<br />
Etc.<br />
<br />
In my case, I bought at BLT. I could have saved some money buying resale at SSR, but I really want to be at BLT, not SSR.<br />
<br />
I have 6 kids and live in NJ.<br />
<br />
My total cost for my annual vacation (estimated in today's dollars)<br />
<br />
DVC dues $1200<br />
DVC membership cost of points $614<br />
   (simply divided by 50, not looking at time value of $, NPV, etc.)<br />
Airfare $2,000<br />
Meals (say dining plan) $1700<br />
Park tickets $3,000<br />
Souvenirs $500<br />
Etc. $500<br />
Car rental $1000<br />
<br />
Total cost = $10,514 per year<br />
<br />
(OUCH!)<br />
<br />
X 50 years of vacations<br />
<br />
=$525,700<br />
<br />
(DOUBLE OUCH!)<br />
<br />
Assume I purchased other than BLT and saved half the dues and half the amortized purchase price. This would be an annual savings of $900.<br />
<br />
This means that instead of $10,514 a year, it would be $9,614 a year. The real savings each year is 8.5% assuming I could save 50% on the purchase and dues (unlikely).<br />
<br />
So the premium for &quot;buy where you want to stay&quot; is much lower in this context than if you only consider the purchase price and MF of DVC.<br />
<br />
To me, if I were staying at a resort I didn't want and still incurring all these other costs, I'd be upset much more than the marginal savings in the DVC cost would offset.<br />
<br />
Of course, I have an unusally large family with 6 kids, but the same concept would apply to everyone who spends money on park passes, travel, and food in addition to the cost of DVC membership.<br />
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Just another perspective...</div>

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			<title>AKV moving up the list</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:12:17 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>As I near my decision to buy, the resort that was one of the furthest down the list keeps moving up.  The AKV value rooms keep pushing me toward a purchase there.  Right now I think it is between AKV, SSR, OKW, and the darkhorse is BWV (especially if I can get it at $33).  Based on the limited...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>As I near my decision to buy, the resort that was one of the furthest down the list keeps moving up.  The AKV value rooms keep pushing me toward a purchase there.  Right now I think it is between AKV, SSR, OKW, and the darkhorse is BWV (especially if I can get it at $33).  Based on the limited amount of points I am planning to buy (AKA start with before adding on), I love the value that OKW and AKV value rooms offer.  I would like to have the option of OKW GV, but would only use that option every few years.  OKW points are cheaper, and I could therefore get more of those, SSR, or even BWV than I can at AKV.  <br />
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I cannot make a decision here!!!  Paralysis by analysis!  HELP!!!:hammer:</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[What makes it a "home" resort?]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 13:13:52 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[What is the minimum buy-in that makes a resort a "home" resort?   
Can you buy 25 pts & have the right to call it a "home"?(thus booking capability 11 months out) 
Example= If I bought 25 pts at BWV, can I call it "home" & use pts from OKW to book 11 months out? 
:confused:]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>What is the minimum buy-in that makes a resort a &quot;home&quot; resort?  <br />
Can you buy 25 pts &amp; have the right to call it a &quot;home&quot;?(thus booking capability 11 months out)<br />
Example= If I bought 25 pts at BWV, can I call it &quot;home&quot; &amp; use pts from OKW to book 11 months out?<br />
:confused:</div>

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			<title>Think I am gonna switch resorts....</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 17:12:37 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Seriously considering selling my SSR and going to buy BWV/BCV.... 
 
 
I have a 200 pt contract at SSR with a Sept UY(currenlty only has  1 2010 point but all 2011 points.)  Gonna start looking for a BWV/BCV 200 pt contract preferably with a Feb/Mar/Apr UY. 
 
I know I am giving up 12 years but we...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Seriously considering selling my SSR and going to buy BWV/BCV....<br />
<br />
<br />
I have a 200 pt contract at SSR with a Sept UY(currenlty only has  1 2010 point but all 2011 points.)  Gonna start looking for a BWV/BCV 200 pt contract preferably with a Feb/Mar/Apr UY.<br />
<br />
I know I am giving up 12 years but we simply always want to stay in an EPCOT resort....</div>

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			<title>Just Added PTS through Disney</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 15:26:50 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I know resale is the right thing. But couldn't get small contract to add on  (50 Pts.) and my same use year (Dec.) I went to an open house at the BLT. They offered me $95 a point at Saratoga (my home base) and are giving me 2009 pts and no closing costs. For the little extra I spent through Disney...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I know resale is the right thing. But couldn't get small contract to add on  (50 Pts.) and my same use year (Dec.) I went to an open house at the BLT. They offered me $95 a point at Saratoga (my home base) and are giving me 2009 pts and no closing costs. For the little extra I spent through Disney the points are already in my account and I have same use year. I bit the bullet.</div>

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			<title>If ROFR Was Stopped Would You Still Buy DVC ?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 02:06:42 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[The more I see the resale prices dropping I really have to wonder if Disney has stopped ROFR'ing . Would you continue to buy points if this were so? What would be your strategy for purchasing?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>The more I see the resale prices dropping I really have to wonder if Disney has stopped ROFR'ing . Would you continue to buy points if this were so? What would be your strategy for purchasing?</div>

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			<title>Wow!  And I thought I got my HHI contract cheap!</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 01:41:28 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[My sis called today asking if I saw the "other" ROFR thread.  Apparently someone passed ROFR on 150 BWV points for $33 pp! 
 
Apparently the buyer knew the seller, it was a private deal with no broker.  They used their own modified timeshare contract they downloaded from the internet.  But it was a...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>My sis called today asking if I saw the &quot;other&quot; ROFR thread.  Apparently someone passed ROFR on 150 BWV points for $33 pp!<br />
<br />
Apparently the buyer knew the seller, it was a private deal with no broker.  They used their own modified timeshare contract they downloaded from the internet.  But it was a sale- and it passed ROFR at $33 pp.<br />
<br />
I guess if you want a contract at this point, you find the cheapest seller, make the lowest offer and unless it's BCV, you've got a good chance to pass.</div>

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			<title>Different UY’s</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:45:56 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>How difficult is it having multiple contracts with different use years? 
 
I’ve got add-onitis, and I’ve found a good contract but it has a different UY then my current contract.  I don’t need the contract, but it’s a good deal, and like I said I’ve got add-onitis – it’s a disease.   
I’m sure...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>How difficult is it having multiple contracts with different use years?<br />
<br />
I’ve got add-onitis, and I’ve found a good contract but it has a different UY then my current contract.  I don’t need the contract, but it’s a good deal, and like I said I’ve got add-onitis – it’s a disease.  <br />
I’m sure other deals will come along, should I just wait for a contract with the correct UY?</div>

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			<title>can DVC change the contract after signing/notarizing?</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:21:05 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>My wife and I just sent off after a month of debating if we should join DVC or not.  We recieved the documents a month ago and sent them off this past monday 8/23/10 with a $5500 deposit.  We purchased the 160 point package with about $11k left to finance at 10.75%.  Low and behold, our salesperson...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>My wife and I just sent off after a month of debating if we should join DVC or not.  We recieved the documents a month ago and sent them off this past monday 8/23/10 with a $5500 deposit.  We purchased the 160 point package with about $11k left to finance at 10.75%.  Low and behold, our salesperson called and said he made a mistake on our interest rate and is sending us new documents and is raising the rate to 14.75% and tha we should get those re-notarized and sent back in.  My question is why?  we signed a legal document and its not our mistake.  we have paid for a notory and now have to pay again!  I would like any feedback on this and was wondering if any mistakes have happened to other members.  I would like DVC to honor the original interest rate from the loan documents, but so far they have told me &quot;oh well&quot;  you may cancel if you like!!</div>

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			<title>Need a Few (Thousand) Extra Points?</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:45:14 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I saw a resale at DVCbyResale today that was 2000 points! At OKW. They were asking $100K but inviting offers. I'll bet.... 
 
There can't be too many contracts that large out there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I saw a resale at DVCbyResale today that was 2000 points! At OKW. They were asking $100K but inviting offers. I'll bet....<br />
<br />
There can't be too many contracts that large out there.</div>

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			<title>Best DVC Value</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:43:34 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Based on some discussion posted in this thread (http://www.mouseowners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44414) just wanted to start a new thread for all of you math geeks to figure out, based on resale prices and MFs, which resort is the best value in the DVC.   
 
Let's assume for that someone wanted...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Based on some discussion posted in <a href="http://www.mouseowners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44414" target="_blank">this thread</a> just wanted to start a new thread for all of you math geeks to figure out, based on resale prices and MFs, which resort is the best value in the DVC.  <br />
<br />
Let's assume for that someone wanted to buy 350 points and didn't care where they stayed so it didn't matter for instance that 350 doesn't get you as much at BLT as it does at OKW.  Just trying to simplify it some.</div>

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			<title>Anyone know how I can get on the automatic email list from GMAC/Fidelity?</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:28:09 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I was on the automatic update list from them a few months ago, but unsubscribed.  I want to sign up again, but can't remember how I did it.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?  Also, if anyone has the current list could you PM me?  Thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I was on the automatic update list from them a few months ago, but unsubscribed.  I want to sign up again, but can't remember how I did it.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?  Also, if anyone has the current list could you PM me?  Thanks!</div>

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			<title>Multiple Home Resort vs. One</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:43:10 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I am considering multiple home resorts for my purchase and wanted to get some pros and cons.  We only go once a year but would like the 11 month advantage at different resorts for different reasons. 
 
The two major issues I can think of are: 
 
Combining all of my points for a big trip could be...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I am considering multiple home resorts for my purchase and wanted to get some pros and cons.  We only go once a year but would like the 11 month advantage at different resorts for different reasons.<br />
<br />
The two major issues I can think of are:<br />
<br />
Combining all of my points for a big trip could be tricky<br />
<br />
What if I bank and borrow and can't get the room I want?  I am afraid of having wasted points since I will be banking so much.</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[Why shouldn't I buy at...]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:36:43 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Looking for pure opinion on this.  I understand each person has to make their own decision based on what is most important to them, blah blah blah..... 
 
But, tell me why I SHOULDN'T make the following resorts my home resort.  I am considering each of them for different reasons. 
 
AKV 
 
OKW 
...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Looking for pure opinion on this.  I understand each person has to make their own decision based on what is most important to them, blah blah blah.....<br />
<br />
But, tell me why I SHOULDN'T make the following resorts my home resort.  I am considering each of them for different reasons.<br />
<br />
AKV<br />
<br />
OKW<br />
<br />
SSR<br />
<br />
BLT<br />
<br />
BWV<br />
<br />
HHI<br />
<br />
Vero</div>

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