Disney Marathon '08

[nono]

OK, I know there's interest, and my lousy outing not withstanding, now's a good time to start thinking about the events next January. Registration is already open, so you can commit whenever you want. Realize that they were pushing the 15th Anniversary aspect to this year's participants, so a July sell out for the Goofy, Half and Full is more likely than ever!

Why the event was not a great experience for me:

1. I was hurt and trained back like I was going to be able to race.
2. Course wasn't friendly to my type of injury.
3. Course was too narrow for the wave start that ensued.
4. Lots of people submitted proof of time pace that they were in no way planning to run that day. Unfortunately, I was indeed planning on running my pace the full 13.1 and due to #3 above, was literally unable to do so.
5. I should have approached this like a goof and not a race and I'd have been fine.

However, I'm not sorry I did it, as the cool thing with running and walking long is I always learn something useful. Good news is I can do a 2:25 half-marathon in lousy (for me) conditions on 2 hrs sleep while still recovering from an injury. :thumbsup: My "Real Age" (see realage.com) had dropped even more so that I'm 12 years younger than my chronological age. Most of the recent drop has to do with a much lower heart rate now that I am running. I've been an athlete all my life ('cept for the last 5 as a couch potato), but I've never had my heart rate so low. Soooo, I encourage everyone to get out there and train for the 1/2...the "side benefits" for me have been WAY greater than the single event that was my goal. :goodvibes

OK, so who's in?

[cruise-o-matic]

Congrats NoNo.

DW ran the 1/2 in just under 3. She's talking about doing the Full next year. I told her, I'd do the Goofy when she did the Full....what did I get myself into...

I'm on day 2 of being able to walk normally. I'm writing my marathon report in Word so I can paste it when I'm done.

My time was no where near what I wanted to do. The heat and humidity really got to me and I had bad leg cramps starting at mile 16.

About a minute or so after I finished, the 100,000th marathon finisher crossed the line. She gets a free entry into the '08 marathon and free airfare too. If only I dogged it a little more....

Carrie, how'd you fare?

[withdisneyspirit]

I wanna, I wanna do it! The half that is...so I just need to approach the half like a goof and I'll have it made?! I like that nono :)

Congrats to both of you for the accomplishment :clappingh :goodvibes

[ErinC]

Nono, Dh is pondering doing the half. Two years ago, he dropped 60 lbs and was running and working out like a maniac. We have both committed to getting back on Weight Watchers this week, so if he gets serious he'll have no problems getting the weight back off. He talked about doing the 1/2 as motivation to stick with his weight loss and workouts. Where can I find the registration stuff and info. I'm thinking the timing is going to be super bad for him. His parents retire from the family business at the end of this year. He would only be "the" boss for a week, before leaving town!:D Of course, if he commits, I get another ticker, so no way am I going to discourage him!

[nono]

Here's the starting page:

http://disneyworldsports.disney.go.com/dwws/en_US/marathon/listing?name=MarathonEventListingPage2

Not cheap to enter. I have found it to be a great time to visit The World, and cheering on folks for the full was sure fun!:birhdaypa (yeah, we did use some noisemakers!)

[cruise-o-matic]

I was a mere 30 seconds ahead of the 100,000 finisher. Here's me:

http://www.asiorders.com/view_user_photo.asp?EVENTID=13985&ID=31246468&FROM=photos&BIB=14197

Here she is crossing the line:

http://www.asiorders.com/view_user_photo.asp?EVENTID=13985&ID=31246479

Here she is getting the golden ears:

http://www.asiorders.com/view_user_photo.asp?EVENTID=13985&ID=31246480

And here are the confettiworks:

http://www.asiorders.com/view_user_photo.asp?EVENTID=13985&ID=31246481

http://www.asiorders.com/view_user_photo.asp?EVENTID=13985&ID=31246482

[cruise-o-matic]

Check out this medal:

http://www.asiorders.com/view_user_photo.asp?EVENTID=13985&ID=31278590

[nono]

Check out this medal:

http://www.asiorders.com/view_user_photo.asp?EVENTID=13985&ID=31278590

Oh, that is just ostentatious! :hyper:

[PoohsPal]

FYI - There is a $5 DVC discount, but you have to mail the form in. Let me know if you need the form.

OK. Still need to get to a race report, but here's the scoop. I finished and did not need med assistance afterwards. We'll call that a success. I do not do heat adn put in walking intervals after mile 12 when the sun came out. My legs were really cramping after ~17 miles. Not sure if it was ebcause they were not used to intervals or because of dehydration, but it was less than spectacular.

I added about 50 minutes to last year's time. From what I've heard, everyone added 45 to 60 minutes to their expected time.

However, I figure the odds are that next year will be better and we plan to sign up for the full again.

We are going to try to do some trail running so that our legs are not as sensitive top uneven ground. i'm signed up for the Minnie 15K in May, so that I will not be in slacker mode then. We are talking about doing another big race to keep us training too.

Worst part of the race - I rolled my shirt up due to teh heat and my stomach should not be bared in public. Yuck. Pics are now posted on at least 2 boards. :crymeariv

[PoohsPal]

Here's a link to teh DVC member 08 app, thanks to DIsneyrunning.com

http://www.disneyrunning.com/08WDWCastDVCMarathon.pdf

[cruise-o-matic]

Congrats on finishing. I ran into cramps on mile 16 and was wondering if I'd make it too.

That Minnie! :minniemou She can't keep her hands off me...http://www.asiorders.com/view_user_photo.asp?PID=&EVENTID=13985&PWD=&ID=31203235&FROM=browser&START=397&SHOW=36&CAT=123658&SUB=39589

[Dennyha]

I went into the half with no plans to push it. We finished in 3:25, and I felt great. Prior to doing the half, I was already thinking of going for the full next year, but after finishing the half and feeling fine, I decided to go for the Goofy next year. I'll do the half at a leasurely pace again, and then push the full at least a little. I agree with Nono, in that this is a great run to ease up and enjoy. It is not a great race to push for a PR.

I've already mailed in my application (with the DVC discount of course), so now I'm committed (or should be committed:innocent: ). DW and DS are going to do the half next year, so we'll do it together on Saturday.:doublejum

[PoohsPal]

Too cute Cruise!!!!

Woo hoo Denny! Going Goofy! Someday......

[PoohsPal]

OK MOs, how's training going?

Laura - I know you've read MfM, any questions?

Do we have any other MOs ready to take the challenge in 08?

[Rozzie]

mmmmmmnnnnn............huh.............errrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrr..........mmmmmmmmm :blech:


Thinking about it, and as I really need to lower my age. (I am a 1 year older than I actually am, yikes! and that is from last year when I was 10 lbs lighter!)

My problem is work, and getting off for MO meet and the Marathon too. Mmmnnn. Okay, if 2 people commit that haven't done it before, I'll go in. Besides, it's another ticker, right? :Pssst:

What are the actual dates again???????

[PoohsPal]

The half will be Jan 12 adn teh full will be Jan 13 for 08. It's a week later than it has been, so hopefully that will help some!

[Dennyha]

Woo hoo Denny! Going Goofy! Someday......

Carrie,
You're referring to the marathon......right?.......well...

[withdisneyspirit]

mmmmmmnnnnn............huh.............errrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrr..........mmmmmmmmm :blech:


Thinking about it, and as I really need to lower my age. (I am a 1 year older than I actually am, yikes! and that is from last year when I was 10 lbs lighter!)

My problem is work, and getting off for MO meet and the Marathon too. Mmmnnn. Okay, if 2 people commit that haven't done it before, I'll go in. Besides, it's another ticker, right? :Pssst:

What are the actual dates again???????

Hmmmm, Rozzie, I have never committed before :Pokepoke: I've gone as far to print out the application and I am verrrry close :goodvibes

[nono]

I'm not doing the WDW 1/2 for 2008, but am planning on doing the Hilton Head 1/2 marathon that happens in February and planning on doing DVC for that trip. Can I train along with you?

[PoohsPal]

Carrie,
You're referring to the marathon......right?.......well...

:p Yeah, I've been Goofy in other ways for a while.

nono - Of course you can train with us!!!!!

[RweTHEREyet]

My hubby was just given clearance by his cardiologist to train for the 1/2, and he is seriously considering it. I will let you know if he decides to sign up.

How far is a 5k? Showing my ignorance here, but is the 5k family thing a fast walking race?

[PoohsPal]

That's great that teh doc gave your dh teh ok RWE! He must still eb doing really well!!

5K = 3.1 miles. I don't believe that there is a time limit on it.

[PoohsPal]

My mistake. There is a 15 minute per mile time limit on teh 5K. WHile a walk is entirely possible, it is a decent-paced walk.

[Dennyha]

:p Yeah, I've been Goofy in other ways for a while.



Welcome to the club! :thumbsup:

[RweTHEREyet]

That's great that teh doc gave your dh teh ok RWE! He must still eb doing really well!!

5K = 3.1 miles. I don't believe that there is a time limit on it.

He is doing great. He has lost 55 lbs. and wants to lose another 40-50 and needs a goal to help accomplish that. The holidays and this winter have been hard, seems like we want to hibernate, but I am getting back to Curves and he is getting back to his wellness center and walking. These short days with not as much sunshine make it really hard to get motivated, but we are working at getting back to a finess routine.

As I write this, he is actually talking to a friend that ran both the half and the full last year, and she had had brain surgery about two years ago. Her encouragement may just make him send in that application. I will keep you posted.

[ultramm]

My DW and I are going Goofy again. My 3rd and her 2nd. We are doing the Minnie and RFTT also in 07.

We will be at BWV from 1/8-1/21/08:)

[disnutt]

I just signed up for the Full. This will be my 4th time including 2006's Goofy! I'm so excited!:goob:

I've done the 5th and 10th anniversary so I HAVE to do the 15th, right? That's how I explained it to my DH! :ROTFL:

[PoohsPal]

lol, that works for me!!! Then again, dh is just as much of a disney fan and he runs the marathon with me just for teh trip! (OK, and to keep us from being couch potatoes).

Welcome disnutt!

[disnutt]

Pooh's Pal- DH goes along w/ my Disney fetish because it makes me happy. Because of work he's never been able to come down for the marathons, though. I wish we could run together!

[PoohsPal]

Running together is not always the greatest thing, but when it comes marathon time, I don't think I'd make it without him. Bummer your dh can't come. :-(

[nono]

I'm out for my local 10 miler. :boohoohoo I'll only be doing 5 tomorrow and the race is next Sun. This cold weather around here after coming back from FL in Jan has really kicked my arse. I'm so bummed. But, I am glad that we're almost back to a regular running schedule.

[withdisneyspirit]

I just signed up for the Full. This will be my 4th time including 2006's Goofy! I'm so excited!:goob:

I've done the 5th and 10th anniversary so I HAVE to do the 15th, right? That's how I explained it to my DH! :ROTFL:

Hi there, disnutt!! I am the Sparker who pointed you to this wonderful site :clappingh I am very glad to see you here:solikeiwa

I plan on doing the half in 2008. I haven't actually signed up yet so I better get off my butt, huh?! :cellphone

[DisneyMagic1]

I'm new to the site (referred by DisneyRunning.com) but have been a DVC owner at VWL and BWV since 2001 and have really enjoyed taking advantage of the options and flexibility DVC offers.

I just signed up for the 2008 1/2 Marathon. I'm pretty new to running and this will only be my second - the first will be the Rock and Roll 1/2 in VA Beach VA on
Labor day weekend. I know I won't be the fastest finisher but I figure it will be a great way to marry my lifetime love of Disney and my new found passion for running. Appreciate any advice on how to do this (read the 'get there early' and hydrate ones in earlier posts)

Glad to have found this site! :clappingh

[ultramm]

Welcome DisneyMagic1!

Disney races for me are more of a time to have fun and enjoy the experience rather than a race time. My are slow and steady and it has gotten me through the Goofy 2 times.

Make sure to bring a camera and take lots of pics:) I took almost 300 between the 2 races this year.

Good training!

[PoohsPal]

Welcome Disney Magic!!!

I second RObert. Nice and easy and lots of pix!!!

Do you have a training plan?

[DisneyMagic1]

Welcome Disney Magic!!!

I second RObert. Nice and easy and lots of pix!!!

Do you have a training plan?

Thank you!

I have one I found on the internet ... though I notice there are as many different training plans as there are runners! I just started running this past December (and BTW running is NOTHING like ballet) so the first plan is just to build up distance/stamina - which has been hard on the treadmill staring at myself in the mirror - and I'm at about 2.5 miles nonstop now. Then the program says about 2-3 months out I'm supposed to increase distance and alternate two short runs, one longer... subject of course to what my body will let me do! But I'm new to this and not sure the best way to train - Any suggestions?

[disnutt]

Hi there, disnutt!! I am the Sparker who pointed you to this wonderful site :clappingh I am very glad to see you here:solikeiwa

I plan on doing the half in 2008. I haven't actually signed up yet so I better get off my butt, huh?! :cellphone

Yes, if you haven't signed up do it now! Hope to see you there!

[Dennyha]

One thing that I've noticed is that those that enter the WDW marathon events with expectations of having good times, or a PR, tend to be very disappointed. Those that enter and place little or no expectations on their times, and just want to "enjoy" the experience, tend to get hooked.

So, have a good time, soak in the sights and sounds, take time to take some pictures. Get your PR's somewhere else. WDW isn't the place to push for a PR.

[nono]

One thing that I've noticed is that those that enter the WDW marathon events with expectations of having good times, or a PR, tend to be very disappointed. Those that enter and place little or no expectations on their times, and just want to "enjoy" the experience, tend to get hooked.

So, have a good time, soak in the sights and sounds, take time to take some pictures. Get your PR's somewhere else. WDW isn't the place to push for a PR.


Exactly what he said. I'm probably the poster child for that last year and wish someone had pulled me aside while spending $1000 of my own money on injury recovery to tell me not to worry about my times or performance because it's a goat rodeo out there. I wasn't even pushing for a PR, cause heck, I got one anyway as it was my first 1/2, but somehow during my year of training, I turned into a runner. And I like running. What I found the most frustrating about the event in WDW was that I couldn't go at pace...so mentally prep yourself for that. I get very bored around the 2 hour mark, so that's why pace is important for me. Having to tack on an extra 25 min. to that 2 hours due to traffic was sheer mental torture for me! (See, but that's what's cool about running -- you learn sooooo darn much about yourself during the process. I never knew that my entire life is Timed in movie-like segments! LOL)

But I do recommend giving the event (hesitate to call it a race) a whirl. By entering, it turned me into a runner. And that is priceless!

Denny, maybe in '09, we can run the 1/2 together...if we had a "fun run" team...I'd be ready to go again I think!

[Dennyha]

Denny, maybe in '09, we can run the 1/2 together...if we had a "fun run" team...I'd be ready to go again I think!

Nono, That would be a blast. '08 won't be the same without you. (Sure there's no chance for a last minute reprieve?) My wife and son have often remarked how much fun it was to meet you.

My wife decided that being a spectator wasn't for her, and she certainly wasn't going to stay home, so she signed up to do the 1/2. Even though she has NEVER run recreationally, she's been training like a champ. I never would have guessed. She went from walking 3 miles, with a 5 minute jog or two sprinkled in, to covering up to 6 miles doing a r/w of 3/3 (with a 1 mile jog mixed in). If I charted out her progress, she'd be passing me up in a few weeks. While I may have created a monster, her motivation is keeping me on track.

[PoohsPal]

I've been wondering where you were Denny! Good to see you again! I love that all 3 of you are doing 08! Given any thoguth to doing the Chicago Distance Classic yet?

DisneyMagic - Your plan sound good, just for the fact that it eases your body into it. I highly recommend Marathoning for Mortals by John "The Penguin" Bingham. Many friends like Jeff Galloway's plans too. Hal Higdon is way too advanced for me.

Our first year, dha dn I stepped through all of MfM's plans to get ourselves to teh 20 weeks before the marathon. If you're already running, you're ahead of where we started. When not in "real training", 16 to 20 weeks pre-event, dh and I do 40 minutes twice during the week and 5 or 6 miles on Saturday. I try to do XT once or twice a week, but have not done well lately.

PRs - Well, I do nt think I'll ever do more than one full a year, so I'm fgonna' have to try for my PR at WDW. This was not a good year fo PRs in general, but WDW is probably not the place fo a hard core runner to get a PR. You're right.

BTW, last I heard, the half was 60% full adn the full was 50%. DOn't wait too long to sign up!

[Dennyha]

I've been wondering where you were Denny! Good to see you again! I love that all 3 of you are doing 08! Given any thoguth to doing the Chicago Distance Classic yet?



I'm posting less on the boards, and lurking more. Sometimes the volume of posts gets a little overwhelming to keep current.

Since I signed up to do the Goofy in '08, I decided to get a little more serious this year. DW and I have been running regularly. My weekend LR's are about 9 or 10 miles, and I'm getting in between 20 and 25 miles a week. In 3 weeks, DW is doing the 5K and I'm doing the 1/2M at the Columbus Distance Classic. Then in May, she's doing the 5K, and I'm doing the 5K and the 1/2M at the Flying Pig Marathon in Cincinatti. I haven't signed up yet, but I'm planning to do my first full marathon in October +/-. I want to go into WDW having already done a full marathon, so that on Jan 13, I don't have to prove anything to myself. I just have to go at a pace where I feel comfortable, can enjoy the event, and not pressure myself.

I hadn't even looked at the Chicago Distance Classic, but perhaps that would be fun. Are you doing that one?

[RweTHEREyet]

Thanks to Ultramm's post, I called hubby and relayed the registration news, so he got on the stick and registered both himself and DS for the 1/2. So, I guess it's official. They have all the gear, except that grommet thing, fee is paid, room is booked, guess I need to start keeping up with how far out SW is booking these days.

[ultramm]

Now you can add the new WDW night 13K race on Oct 27 as a training run.

It should be interesting being as it is around Halloween:bugeyed:

[nono]

Now you can add the new WDW night 13K race on Oct 27 as a training run.

It should be interesting being as it is around Halloween:bugeyed:

Hey now that sounds like FUN! Not this year, but maybe next!

Denny, this year's a wash out as we'll have a new son home at the end of the summer, so the first race I'm contemplating is the Hilton Head 1/2 in February...and won't even commit to that until I meet the little guy and see how he's adjusting. But, next year will be here soon enough!

[Dennyha]

Nono,
Any other reason and I'd be pulling your chain, but I wish you guys the best. Good Luck!

[disnutt]

Now you can add the new WDW night 13K race on Oct 27 as a training run.

It should be interesting being as it is around Halloween:bugeyed:

That's going to be soooo cooool! They really know how to make me spend every cent of discretionary income on them don't they!:hahahaha:

Don't know if I can do it this year becaue my dear brother decided to get married in Sedona in May and I've already spent that money to get there. :coolcar:

[withdisneyspirit]

Carrie scared me with the update on the Half being 60% full so I went and signed up a couple nights ago!! I am officially entered into the race so there is no going back now :thumbsup: :sunny:

It is still a bit scary because I will be doing the vast majority of my training inside on a treadmill. My treadmill is cushioned for my joints and I really don't want to jog outside anymore than necessary :jawdroppi I am going to jog a 5K on May 11 at the zoo here outside. I am also planning a 5K race for the cure Oct 13 and the 10k Vulcan run here on Nov 30. All those will be outside :burn:

[nono]

Nono,
Any other reason and I'd be pulling your chain, but I wish you guys the best. Good Luck!

Denny,

You can still trash talk me -- it's not like I have to actually give birth or anything. ;)

:fresh:

[PoohsPal]

rotfl Denny and nono!

Lisa - Yay for signing up!!! :woohoo: :woohoo:

Dang, this October race is killing me. My wdw visits were 1996, 2000, 2004, 2006, 2007. Now It's up to 2 in 07 and I want to go for 3. Thinking of asking for an add-on for my b-day. ;-)

I can't believe how pricey the values seem compared to doing DVC. :O

[RweTHEREyet]

Carrie, isn't that the truth. And every time I stay in a regular hotel room, I am wishing I was in my DVC, even if nothing but a studio.

[Dennyha]

Denny,

You can still trash talk me -- it's not like I have to actually give birth or anything. ;)

:fresh:

I understand that you get pain killers for giving birth. It's all of the other child rearing tasks, that are done without the aid of pharmaceuticals, that impress me. :bowdown: I remember it well, and I'm glad we did it. But now, we get to be spectators (smiling).

[Disneymooners93]

Hey, guys. I've been out for awhile with an injury... I broke my treadmill. I think it was broken for my entire Goofy training, but when it went "CRACK, tinkle, tinkle, tinkle" it was done. Good thing it waited until after the races to give out. After nine weeks of therapy, its finally back in shape. I wish I could say the same.

I'm going to miss the marathons next year. :crymeariv Just can't make the later weekend. I'm now looking at taking DW to the Minnie for our 15th anniversary in '08.

Carrie scared me with the update on the Half being 60% full so I went and signed up a couple nights ago!! I am officially entered into the race so there is no going back now

It is still a bit scary because I will be doing the vast majority of my training inside on a treadmill.

Good for you!! My turn to cheer you on!! I did almost all of my training for Goofy on my (broken:headache:) treadmill. I really enjoy running on the treadmill.

[PoohsPal]

Bummer Pete. :( Taking your dw to the 08 Minnie sounds great, though! How about the fall tower o fterror run? ;) (Not htat I'll be there)

BTW, I am sorry about your TM. However, I read injury adn "crack" and was horrified that you had hurt yourself. Very glad that it was only the TM!

[withdisneyspirit]

Hey, guys. I've been out for awhile with an injury... I broke my treadmill. I think it was broken for my entire Goofy training, but when it went "CRACK, tinkle, tinkle, tinkle" it was done. Good thing it waited until after the races to give out. After nine weeks of therapy, its finally back in shape. I wish I could say the same.

I'm going to miss the marathons next year. :crymeariv Just can't make the later weekend. I'm now looking at taking DW to the Minnie for our 15th anniversary in '08.



Good for you!! My turn to cheer you on!! I did almost all of my training for Goofy on my (broken:headache:) treadmill. I really enjoy running on the treadmill.

Ahhh, Pete, I was hoping you'd be there :( That does sound like a great idea for your 15th anniversary though!!

You did do quite a bit of running outside though right?

[Disneymooners93]

I only did about a dozen runs outside. Otherwise, it was all treadmill. It's usually windy here (I hate to run in the wind), add long winters and the basement looks alot better.

Wow, that ToT run looks like a lot of fun!! That's a hard one to pass to pass up.

[withdisneyspirit]

You have made me feel even better, Pete!! After reading your race report, I was so in awe of your marathon!! You did so awesome for a mostly inside runner :worship:

[cobbler]

Ok, I really want to run a half. But I am sooo scared :scary:

I can't do it in 08 because of school but I can in 09. For me it would be such a great accomplishment, I will be graduating in December of 08 and to be able to add this to it a month later would be very very cool!!!! Add to that running would be a great stress reliever.

I am not a runner, never have been so if anyone can give me any sort of training tips that would be fantastic. I can't start to soon.

The only expectations going into it that I have are finishing (without getting swept) and getting a medal.

Is it easy to get swept? That would totally break my heart :tearsaref That is what I am most afraid of.

[ultramm]

It is hard to get swept as they give you 3:30 and a 16 min/mile pace. That is just a brisk walk. I have walked the Goofy the last 2 years. The last cutoff point is mile 10 so after that you are home free.

I would use a Hal Higdon or Jeff Galloway plan of run/walk.

Good luck with scholl and the 09 race. Visit my website for lots of reports.

[nono]

Is it easy to get swept?


Not if you run. :idea:

Seriously, Cobbler, I started running at 41. There are folks that start running at 70. It's a sport that reveals itself to you when you are ready. I wasn't ready earlier, though I used to run a couple miles to "cross train" for whatever my "real" sport was. Now running is my real sport!

My 2 cents is to decide whether you prefer to run/walk by distance or time. Either works, it's just what appeals to you. For me it was a miles thing. We started (pushing a stroller) with 1 mi out. And a 1 mi walk back. It was winter and cold, so we quickly decided (after a week or so) that we could run 2 mi! And, we could!

We also made some rules -- like, we will always complete our mileage, but we can call time outs and/or walk if things aren't going right. I don't think we have ever walked more than 5x in the past 14 months. I've called time out more frequently! :) In fact, on our usual runs, we go 1/2way and then stop for a couple minutes, then turn around and run back. Having that 3-5 min break is SO GREAT--second half of the run, our pace is always more comfortable and also faster!

Join a site like coolrunning where you can keep your running/walking journal. They have a forum...as do other sites.

Let us know what else we can do for you as you start your journey!!!! WAY COOL.
:cool2:

[ultramm]

That reminds me that I forgot to mention I have a forum as well and there are several newbies for the 1/2 & full in 08 that are getting advice from the many experienced Disney Runners. Stop by and say hi and read there progress for 08 to help you for 09.

I willl see you there planning for Goofy #4:)

[cobbler]

Not if you run. :idea:


Well if you aren' the funny one. :tongue:

I was reading that they have time limits at certain markers and then add 10 minutes for the last person to cross the line. I am thinking that it will take more than 10 minutes from the start of the race before the last person crosses the line?? :veryconfu

So can you do a walk/run? Like say I get a bit exhausted or a bit worn out, can I walk a little bit. I don't plan on on walking the entire time but like to know just in case.

Of course I worry now because I have not trained at all.

AHHHHH :scary:

[ultramm]

They add the time it takes the last runner to cross the start line. This year they added wave starts that started at 6:00, 6:10, and 6:30. If you started at 6:10 like my DW and I did, you are assured not to get cut as you will have at least another 30 minutes.

Once you start training, you will increase your endurance and the miles will get easier. Just take it slow and easy and listen to your body. Like I mentioned, my forum has walkers and runners that have done the WDW races for years.

Good training!

[cobbler]

So is there a way to get an earlier start?? I would like that.

I have been looking at your site and some of the photos. It looks like a lot of people stop to take pics with characters. They must be awfully good at catching up or running to be able to take some time out for that.

[nono]

Well if you aren' the funny one. :tongue:


Thank you! :tilt:

Seriously, think of it this way--you have a long time to build a base. Let's say you only build up to 5 mi at a pace of 10min/mi. That would be 50 min. So, you walk the remaining 8.1 mi at 16 min/mi. That's about another 130 min. That's 3 hrs. total.

You're good! You got a medal!

[nono]

So is there a way to get an earlier start??

Run faster. :duck:

Seriously, if you can get up to running a 10K and get a decent time, you submit that to help with your placement.

[cobbler]

So it sounds like they help you and really try to not have participants get swept. I heard about some horror stories in 2006 I think, people getting swept because of miscalculations.

Basically your placement is determined for you and you can't choose to start at 6am or get to the line earlier to start at 6am.

I guess since I have never run anything before it confuses me a bit. When you are running, how do you know when the last person crossed and if you made it to the check point in time? Do they yell something to you when you cross the start, saying the clock has to read such and such a time when you make it to a certain point?

[ultramm]

The paper race app states that you only have to proof of estimated time if you plan to run less than 2:15. If you "estimate":D that you will finish at 2:30, you will be moved to the B corral and give you the extra time. I know that this is done by some runners wanting to move out of the last corral. If you leave off a time you will be put at the end(last corral)

[nono]

Cobbler,

It seems to me that it is folks who walk exclusively who are the only ones in danger of being swept (assuming the sweepers don't get aggressive). Dennyha and his son did a great job while injured and keeping ahead of the sweepers, so I hope he checks in on this thread to tell you exactly how to do it to keep your mind at ease.

But, generally, if you are 2 years out from running this, you won't be having a problem getting to the finish. Think of it it this way. If you start this month, you have 21 months to learn to run distance. So, let's say you only add 1 mi/month in distance (not 1 mile overall!!!), you'll be comfortable with a long run of 21 miles by the time race day rolls around, and you are signing up for the 1/2. Soooooo, you should be in great shape!!!!

:jumpingbe

[PoohsPal]

Cobbler - I highly recommend reading Marathoning fo Martals. Start now, adn tyyou will have no problem. Dh and I started with teh walk/run program in tehre. With 2 years, you could start with just walking and then slowly add some runnign to it.

As for placement, the faster runners get to go first, so that they do not have to run around you. Get a cheap stop watch and start it when you cross the start. Memorize where teh sweep points are and what time you have to get to them. Then, you can track yourself. I know you can do it if you start sooon!

WJile ther have been some sweeps made that shoudl not have been, if you train to do at least 15 minutes per mile, you should be fine. However, if you train to go faster, you'll have time for character pics! :dancingba

[Dennyha]

As Nono said, DS and I did the 1/2M this past year. My son was struggling with an injured knee, but he wanted to finish. We jogged about 20-30% of the course, and walked the rest. It wasn't a power walk, just a nice walk. We were watching the clock, and finished in about 3 hours, 20 minutes. We could have jogged more if we had to, but we didn't have to.

The pace is such that I don't think that a person could just walk the whole thing, unless they were an experienced power-walker. A 16min/mile pace is between 3.7 and 3.8 mph, and I can't walk the fast, especially for 3-1/2 hours. But, if you can jog sporadically, I think you shouldn't have any problem. It would help if you could keep your time.

Good Luck, you'll have a blast.

[ultramm]

I walked the Goofy in 06 with a 3:05 half and a 6:6:32 Full and in 07 Goofy I did a 3:21 and a 6:58 with my wife. She had PF the last 13 miles of the full. It is easily walked. I walked the 1996 WDW marathon in 5:09. I walked a 50 mile race in 1993 in 10:32.

I am a regular power walker and know of other walkers who have finished even faster!

[nono]

To those just beginning their running careers and to those who haven't believed my previous evangelism...I'm here to say the single most important book I've purchased associated with running is:
The Trigger Point Therapy Workbook by Clair Davies.

Yesterday I pulled my back muscle while stretching my hip, but went out for my 4 mi run anyway. It still hurt last night and I slept poorly. So, I dug out the book, and did 5 min of reading, 2 minutes of "superball" therapy, and my pain is down easily 50%.

This book also helped ease oncoming PF...other issues that contributed to my ITBS, and other things I've probably forgotten about by now!

Can you tell I'm highly recommending this book? :D

[cobbler]

Well I got my hubby to bring over my mom's treadmill from storage this weekend and jumped on it today.

I started out walking as a warm up and actually was walking at a 4.0 pace (that would be a 15 minute mile). So I ended up jogging at a 4.7 pace (12.75 minute mile) and do so for .7 miles. Then I finished walking to warm down .2 miles. I didn't want to overdo it and being that I haven't ran/jogged since my sophomore year of track (1993) I felt kind of proud.

The only parts I didn't like were my inner thighs rubbing together :grrrrr: and my calves could feel it. Not pain or anything, just I was able to feel it in my calves.

I am going slowly and just realize now that I am sure I can go the distance, my issue will obviously be endurance. So tomorrow I will get on again and plan to jog a full mile.

So that is what I did for my first time. Any advice / tips / critiques on what I did today??

[nono]

Get some BodyGlide for when the weather is hot and your shorts chafe your thighs. That stuff is like a miracle for my thighs.

Sounds like you are off to a great start! Personally, I did 4 runs per week my first year (with some exceptions) but after like my bazillionth injury, I found out that if I do an every other day schedule (with 2 sleeps before running again), I stay injury free. So just experiment a bit with your schedule, and see what works for you! A lot of the marathon training guides won't apply to you yet from a scheduling perspective, but most are great about the mental game and the upkeep items, like stretching.

Great job!!!!! :woohoodan

[ultramm]

I second Body Glide. It works well on a;; parts of the body that have friction(thighs, feet, etc). I used it for both Goofy's. I also need at least 48 hrs between training wlaks(runs). I get injuried otherwise.

Slow and steady get you ready:)

[cobbler]

I emailed Disney and asked if there would be a pacing requirement since one isn't listed. They emailed back saying there would be one a 16minute mile. Kind of bummed because my oldest wanted to be able to do it and I just don't think he could keep up that pace for the 13K. But then I won't let him do the 6.5K alone while I do the 13.

Sigh

[Dennyha]

An interesting note from the 1/2marathon DW and I went to this past weekend.

We listened to talks by John Bingham and Coach Jenny, along with other medical sports authorities. All were in agreement that you should NOT stretch before a run. The muscles are cold, and it promotes injuries. The medical studies are mixed about the benefits of stretching after a run, but most recommended light stretching after shorter runs only. They did not recommend stretching after long runs. They felt that there was plenty of micro damage already done to the muscles from the long run and there was no need to add more damage to the muscles by stretching. They did add that there are benefits to stretching targeted towards "imbalances". By this, they meant that if you get shin splints on your left leg, you should probably do some light streching of this area before and after a run to help with the imbalance.

This view was a little new to me. Now I feel better about being a poor stretcher.:hehehehe:

[nono]

Hey, Denny, I was a poor stretcher too! I'm lucky to throw my bod out the door in the morning to start the run...stretching would derail that whole process.

But now, I stretch the night before my run. Several yogis I watch/read suggest that end of day is when folks are loosest, so I had an :idea:

My H likes to stretch throughout the day after a run (esp. during the workweek). Sitting at a desk after a 4 or 5 mi run probably tightens him up more than me with playing with my D and doing general housework and stuff.

I think the coolest part about running is the self-awareness one has to develop to last in the sport, 'cause what works for one definitely isn't the sure-fire thing for the next guy/gal.

[PoohsPal]

cobbler - Congrats on your first run! FYI - I use short compression pants/biker shorts when I run for teh thighs rubbing. (Plus, I don't feel so conspicuous in shorts that way.) LIke everyone else has said, you need to fin what works for you. Just don't push too hard and injure yourself!

[nono]

Why I run!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18369706/?GT1=9246

[DisneyMagic1]

Was on here earlier this year asking for advice about the WDW 1/2. Thanks to everyone who provided some information. I ended up with Galloway's book and (despite pushing a little to hard in training before I got the book and giving myself some tendonitis) I just finished the VA Beach Rock and Roll half yesterday! I'm excited and just had to share. :)

My time wasn't as good as i would have liked but it still felt pretty darn good to cross that finish line. And even better than that, I felt good (though a little sore) after it was all over. A definite feeling of accomplishment.

Now it's on to the 2008 WDW half!!

[nono]

CONGRATULATIONS DISNEYMAGIC1!!!!

Way to go!!! :bouncingp

[withdisneyspirit]

That is great, DM1!!!!!!!!! You must feel so confident now :highfive: :cheerlead

I will be there for the half too!! Can someone remind me...does the half finish in the MK or EPCOT? Also, where is the best place to cheer the full marathoners? If it ends in the MK, I would think I would want to be there at least at toward the end...want to be there to cheer Carrie and others here at MO!!!

[PoohsPal]

Congratulations DisneyMAgic!!!! Way to go!!!

Lisa - My family likes to cheer at Epcot. You hit just after the start adn tehn at the 4 mile mark. Then they monorail to MK and hit main street (you could hit TnT instead too). They then monorail to the polyand walk to FLoridian Way. That's about mile 12. Then, they do breakfast at GF. ;)

From there, it's to the finish in teh Epcot parking lot. If you want to hit the hard spots, teh BOardwalk and just before the International Gateway would eb a huge help. I always suffer going around WS loagoon most, but if I'm on target, it won't be open yet wehn I go through.

[withdisneyspirit]

I am confused. How does your family cheer you in EPCOT at mile 4 if that is when the park isn't open yet? So, if I want to help out by being at the Boardwalk and at IG, what mile is that? I am all about cheering for you, Carrie!! :rockband: :jumpingbe

Also, does anyone know where the 1/2 finishes? Is it also in the EPCOT parking lot?

[ultramm]

Lisa:

The marathon start line becomes mile 4 after the runners go into EPCOT and come back around on the way to MK. The Boardwalk(near IG) is almost mile 25. That is tough because only a mile to go.

The 1/2 uses the same finish line as the marathon which is in the EPCOT parking lot.

Hope this helps!

[withdisneyspirit]

Okay, thanks you two! I will be definitely watching for you at Mile 25!!

[Bellefan]

I'm signed up for the WDW half Marathon on Jan. 12th. My friend convinced me to join her this coming January. I love WDW and had been looking for an excuse to stat getting in shape. I am very overweight, buy I agreed. I started walking/jogging back in March, and up to the end of September I had built up to a 50 minutes/3 miles walk.

Then, disaster hit. I fell badly on my morning run four weeks ago and sprained my ankle. I had to hobble all the way home (no cell phone, so I couldn't call for help). By the time I got home the left foot was really swollen and I had tears in my eyes. I saw the Dr. who gave me an aircast, and forbade me from putting any weight on it for 2-3 days, and from running for at least two weeks, "until all pain was gone."

Well, it will four weeks tomorrow since that day, and I can walk OK, but every time I start to jog, I get a small pain on that left ankle. I have followed Dr.s' instructions, but now I'm really nervous, as I might not be able to catch up with the training needed to finish the race.

I'm not interested in anything other than finshing (no time goals), but now I wonder, is this still doable? Any previous experience?

If I now try to walk the half instead of jogging? Is that OK? Is it too late?

Thanks!!

[withdisneyspirit]

I'm signed up for the WDW half Marathon on Jan. 12th. My friend convinced me to join her this coming January. I love WDW and had been looking for an excuse to stat getting in shape. I am very overweight, buy I agreed. I started walking/jogging back in March, and up to the end of September I had built up to a 50 minutes/3 miles walk.

Then, disaster hit. I fell badly on my morning run four weeks ago and sprained my ankle. I had to hobble all the way home (no cell phone, so I couldn't call for help). By the time I got home the left foot was really swollen and I had tears in my eyes. I saw the Dr. who gave me an aircast, and forbade me from putting any weight on it for 2-3 days, and from running for at least two weeks, "until all pain was gone."

Well, it will four weeks tomorrow since that day, and I can walk OK, but every time I start to jog, I get a small pain on that left ankle. I have followed Dr.s' instructions, but now I'm really nervous, as I might not be able to catch up with the training needed to finish the race.

I'm not interested in anything other than finshing (no time goals), but now I wonder, is this still doable? Any previous experience?

If I now try to walk the half instead of jogging? Is that OK? Is it too late?

Thanks!!

You can definitely walk the half but you must be able to maintain at least a 16 minute mile for the whole time. I hope your ankle heals more and more. It will be easier to maintain the pace necessary if you are able to jog at least some of the time! I am pulling for you!!!!

[ultramm]

I would agree with Lisa in that it takes a lot of work and training to walk and maintain a 16 min pace. I know first hand as I have walked the last 2 Goofy's. Adding in some jogging(even if a reverse 5/1 ratio will help you keep the pace. Remember when you walk the 5 minutes you will still have to work hard and can't ease up. A lot of runners walk really slow after they stop there jogging. This doesn't help them at all maintain the 16 min pace.

You have plenty of time to get ready to finish the race.

Good luck!