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gopherit
10-04-2006, 03:25 PM
Ever know a kid that was just an absolute handful? THere's one in every class, I think. In my dd's class, there is this one kid who is ALWAYS "in the doghouse" by mid-day of each school day. On the one hand, I feel for the kid - can't be good to get negative attention all day long. On the other hand, do I want my kid seated by him during school? No. DD has already had a few run-ins with him, and has decided she doesn't want that, either, LOL.

Well, so there I was last night at a parent's mtg, discussing things like the school parties, etc. and one mom mentioned she's headed to WDW this wkend. So the conversation turns to WDW. Another mom then asks what a trip to WDW roughly costs for a fam of 4, so we were discussing that with her, and those of us in the "Disney-know" noted what a great family time it is,yadayada, and so this mom then pipes up, "Yes, well, I wouldn't DARE use the Disney child care, not after what happened to [kid I was just talking about up above]" She then discloses (this child's parents were not at the mtg) that when the child was younger (2 or 3) their family went to WDW and while the parents were dining, a "sitter" took the kids swimming, and basically, there was a lapse in watching the child, as the child actually drowned (the person telling me claimed that was the technical term used - drowned, and later resucitated, similar to my colleague who died last week from complications after his drowning). This person told me that WDW paid for their entire trip and that they rec'd checks after the fact as well (I presume for various medical needs). They did not sue, so no legal action was entailed. Now of course, I'm getting the info 2nd-hand, but I would surmise it must have been one of those outside firms (like kids day out, right? I thought I recalled that these are not technically Disney-owned, just Disney-accessible, meaning they would provide their number to you, advertise them, etc, but those groups were not technically "Disney".) THe only true Disney-operated child care is housed in the centers like Cub's Den, Sandcastle CLub, etc and those groups don't go swimming - right? THis would have only been about 5 yrs ago.

I guess how it happened at this point is, to some degree, irrelevant. The thing that stuck with me and the point of my relating this tale is that apparently, there is a perception by the parents and the docs that this event may be contributing to the child's inability to focus, hindered social skills, etc. I guess they felt some permanent damage would always be present. I knew the kid had been held back a year, but never knew why, just figured it was difficult to keep the child on task, or maybe just a social maturity issue (which for example is why we held our DS back in pre-K). And now I find out this happened. Just goes to show you never know what history someone carries, huh. But while I have a clearer perception of the kid, I am now further confused by the parents. I'm thinking, man, wow, imagine what they must have gone through, nearly losing a child, boy I can only imagine, with my heart in my throat, how protective I would be from there on out! And yet... this is the kid who, as my dd reminds me DAILY when I buckle her in the back seat into her booster seat, rides every day up front in his car, waving as he rides past... quite often seatbeltless. "How come I can't ride up front like that?" dd will ask as she sees her classmate bouncing around in the front seat, carefree, turning around to wave, no hindrances whatsoever... Maybe they think he's invincible? :idontgeti Go figure.

KNWVIKING
10-04-2006, 03:31 PM
Hmmm.... I nearly drowned a few times as a child........ 'splains alot.

lllovell
10-04-2006, 03:52 PM
I suspect that it isn't that they think he is bullet proof as much as they don't feel like they an do anything negative with the boy because they almost lost him (i.e. - I suspect he gets anything and everything he wants at this point because they almost lost him). Sadly, if this is the case, they are certainly doing him more harm than good.

My mother taught kingergarden for many years and then 2nd grade the last couple of years of her life. In her last 2nd grade class, there was a little girl who choked on a hot dog and suffered brain damage from it. I don't think it caused behavior problems, but she certainly was lagging in mental skills. While we didn't stop giving hot dogs to our children, it was certainly enough of a "reminder" that we cut them into tiny tiny pieces.

How sad for this little boy and his family. Even if he has developmental problems now, we all know that an over induldged child shares some of the issues you have mentioned as well Gopherit. I certainly have NO idea how I would handle such an issue and I feel for his family.

PoohsPal
10-04-2006, 04:00 PM
I suspect that it isn't that they think he is bullet proof as much as they don't feel like they an do anything negative with the boy because they almost lost him (i.e. - I suspect he gets anything and everything he wants at this point because they almost lost him). Sadly, if this is the case, they are certainly doing him more harm than good.
I'd second that. Makes you wonder if it's the parents actually exacerbating things. It does make you stop and think, though. Up to the car seat part, I would have said that it really made me learn that you just never know and not to judge. Which, is a good lesson. Howver, tehwhole riding in the front seat thing takes me back to the parents' fault, at least partially.

TW1
10-04-2006, 10:09 PM
DD went to school with a little girl who had some very rare, very severe heart condition, something irreversible. We all helped raise $ for a cure etc. This poor girl isn't expected to make it past her teen years at best.

Well, if it didn't irk me to see her in the front seat of her mother's car, with mom smoking away none the less, everyday I dropped DD at school. She's moved on to another school so we lost contact. Sweet kid, not at all her fault, but the mother aways seemed so clueless to me.

PoohsPal
10-05-2006, 01:14 PM
very rare, very severe heart condition, something irreversible. .....Well, if it didn't irk me to see her in the front seat of her mother's car, with mom smoking away none the less, everyday I dropped DD at school.
:holymoly:

withdisneyspirit
10-05-2006, 01:49 PM
Oooohh, don't let me get started:huh: Smoking in the car with kids!?!? Letting them sit in the front seat with no seatbelt :zipit: ?!?! It just won't do for me to give an opinion here!!!! Some people are truly :dunce: