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tjkraz
07-13-2006, 05:14 AM
I'm not in the mood to write a legitimate review, so here are a collection of random comments.

* I LOVED IT!!! It's what a sequel should be. I'll openly admit it took me several years to warm up to the original, yet watching Dead Man's Chest was like visiting old friends.

* I knew it was a long movie going in and some had complained about the length. For whatever reason, it had my attention throughout and I never once looked at my watch.

* I really love good writing and I am totally in awe of Elliott and Rossio after this film. I had read that they intended on picking up some of the loose threads from the first film to help make the trilogy seem pre-ordained, but the manner in which they did it was brilliant. As I watched POTC 2, I picked up on a few of them (East India Trading Company, Jack's tattoo, Jack's compass), but I'm sure even more have escaped me.

I watched the first 45-60 minutes of Black Pearl today, and there's a line where Jack is talking to someone and we hear just hear the end of a story where he says something like "...and that's when the tribe made me their chief." ;)

The best thing about these little crossover comments: they never seemed forced.

* Loved seeing Norrington and Barbosa again. I really enjoyed both of them in the first. Both parts were well-written and well-acted. Geoffrey Rush is great and I look forward to seeing a lot more of him in the final film.

(I actually picked-up on his return about 20 seconds before he appeared on screen and whispered it to my wife. She looked at me and said "but he's dead"--yeah, like that matters. ;) )

So, Tim, that's an awful lot of gushing. Is there anything you DIDN'T like?

Yeah, but no deal-breakers:


* The plot was a little convoluted, but I really like they way they tipped their caps to that fact with Jack's line about "you're going to do this, so that I'll do that, so that he'll do the other thing." That was great writing.

* 90% of the special effects were really, really good, but some seemed sorely lacking. Depp's last scene just didn't strike me as being as impressive as a lot of the other work.

* For as long as the film was, it seemed rushed in unfortunate areas. One of the things I've come to appreciate about the first film was some of the slow and deliberate shots early in the film as the characters are introduced. It felt like viewers were given a better chance to appreciate what was happening. In POTC 2, most of the action continued to move at a pretty furious pace.

All-in-all, it was a great summer popcorn film. I'm sure a few more flaws will appear after repeated viewings, but this is clearly a case where I'm glad I steered clear of spoilers and went into the theater ready to simply enjoy the ride. :D

Colorado Belle
07-13-2006, 02:52 PM
I pretty much agree with your synopsis Tim.
I think the few negatives that we have posted stems from the high expectations we all had for another 'perfect' movie.

But I don't remember the reference in the first movie to the East India Trading Company....could you please 'splain it to me?

Good catch on the 'they made me their king' line!!!!!!! Missed that one completely, even tho I watched POC1 at least 6 times!!!!

DarthGoofy
07-13-2006, 03:07 PM
But I don't remember the reference in the first movie to the East India Trading Company....could you please 'splain it to me?

After Jack saves Elizabeth in POTC, Norrington goes to shake his hand. When he does he grabs Jack's hand and pulls up Jack's sleeve. He then notices the "P" burned onto Jack's arm and says, "Had a brush with the East India Trading Co. did we, pirate?"

Very quick in passing, but a good little intro for POTC2.

mssparrrow
07-13-2006, 03:25 PM
Hi,

Hi,

Ms. Sparrow is a VERY HAPPY WIFE/MISTRESS, whatever. I went Monday @ 4:15 p.m. and hardly anyone was there. My boys were so adorable & sexy!!! The storyline was great. It dragged just a little but not so that we noticed. Liked how they focused more and Will & Elizabeth more too. All three did an awesome job. I am angry with Elizabeth a little but I have to admit my Jack is hard to resist most of the time!! I love how my Jack walks, talks & LOOKS! Will looked yummy too!! UMM..I may have to cheat on Jack a little! It was just a FUN ride that should not be taken too seriously!!! Also I would suggest see the 1st one before you go cause there is a lot of connection between them! Going again today! Can't wait for my Jack & the Pearl to be brought back in POTC 3: World's End!

kathleena
07-16-2006, 12:25 AM
Tim - I so totally agree!!!! On all counts.

I just saw it again for the second time last night and liked it even better. Now I'm going to watch CotBP again and go see DMC another time. I caught a lot of the same stuff you did, and agree, it's what helps to make everything great. I had remember the P on his arm. I wonder what mark he left on the EITC guy??

BTW, I agree also about Jack's scene, but again, I think it was better the second time around. Watching Kraken come up behind him. Watching Jack's face slowly realize. And then had totally missed the first time that Kraken spit out Jack's hat.

Nice review. :worship: :computerg

Colorado Belle
07-16-2006, 11:40 PM
THanks Darth!
I had to FORCE myself (LOL) to watch POC I just so I could find the reference to the East India Trading Company. I had remembered when Norrington grabbed Jack's arm, but I sure didn't remember that he said 'the east india company'.

So, I watched it all the way through including the long credits to get to the last scene. And then of course I had to watch the CD of the history, scenes, outtakes etc. I guess I just have way too much time on my hands!

I'm ready to see POC II again. I believe that I'll see a bunch of new stuff like Kathleen did on the second go round. Like the hat!!!!

lllovell
07-17-2006, 07:43 PM
If you boys and girls lived with my two little boys who think PoC is a way of life, not just a ride or a movie, you would have never missed those lines the first time!

I bet we have seen Curse 15 times at least! (one of those films that I am not pulling my hair out when they ask to watch it again...and no - they dont watch tv ALL the time :) )

I really liked the movie. I think the special effects were fantastic. I do think that the length will prove to be necessary because of things it needed to intriduce for the next movie. I think my only general discomfort with the movie is that it left me hanging! WHAT!!!! How DARE they leave me hanging wanting the next movie! *grumble* (I actually remember feeling this way with the Star Wars movies as well. The "movie in the middle" of each trilogy left me feeling uneasy....not really happy...needing resolution...and anticipating the next one even more.)

It didn't hold Richard's interest enough. The story line was too much for a 4 year old too near nap time, so about an hour in, he was a snoozing. PJ also gave it two thumbs down for being a bit too long (you know those 9 month olds...always impatient). She says any movie longer than two bouts of nursing, one long nap and some snackies is just too long for her tastes! Now Charlie, that boy was missing his mouth with the popcorn because he wouldn't look away from the screen and he was so in awe of everything going on. I think the story line was a bit beyond him as well (he is 6) but I was able to get him through it and once he understood who Bootstrap Bill was, he was good to go. I am sure we will go see it a time or two again once it hits the dollar movies! (It is nice to appreciate the special effects of some movies again before buying the DVD for the tv which just isn't big enough for some shots).

All in all - it was really good! You still aren't sure if Jack is a good guy or a bad guy REALLY.....you dont know what is going to happen to any of the main characters.....the interaction between Will and Elizabeth has to be worked out....the monkey WONT DIE!!!! (Ok - so I missed this in the first movie...and if it is on our DVD, it is at the end which I never watch once I own a movie - so the first time I saw the monkey stealing a coin was when TCofBP came on TV the other night. I kept saying "why is the monkey still cursed" duh! lol) ....I could go on, but no messing it up for people that haven't seen it!

I recommend it. I think you need it for the next one and it is entertaining in its own rights!

Laura

doombuggy
07-19-2006, 07:35 PM
I saw this movie on Monday and thought it was really good. The CG was great (although I am not crazy about sea crawlies, etc). I loved that the Commodore came back & did an awesome job making me think he was a loser with no direction. I think Elizabeth is dedicated to Jack but was feeling a bit guilty about what she did before abandoning the Pearl. She may have a little feeling for Jack, but she loves Will.

Great story - a little long in parts, but it had me laughing quite a lot. :dog: