Cavity search?????

[RweTHEREyet]

Those of you that have been on these boards for a while now may remember my experience last February at the airport that resulted in my shoving a TSA person with both hands and them taking one of Mom's bags because they thought it was abandoned and then the cops going on the plane and grilling my 86 year-old Mom. :bugeyed:

Well, tomorrow afternoon we leave for our trip to WDW, and guess what, we are travelling Delta, the same as Mom was, and we will be going thru the same security checkpoint. :bugeyed:

Hubby is having a big time with this and saying that we need to get there at least 4 hours in advance and I might as well wear easily removable clothing for the cavity search. He thinks I will be getting a lot of extra attention tomorrow as my name is probably on every list they have. :bugeyed:

So, if you hear on the news tomorrow evening about some disturbance at the Raleigh/Durham airport, you all can say, we knew her before she turned bad.

Keep your fingers crossed that all goes smoothly for us tomorrow. Guess I should say for me, cause if I get stopped, hubby is gonna go get on the plane and leave without me, I just know it.

[KNWVIKING]

Hubby is having a big time with this and saying that we need to get there at least 4 hours in advance and I might as well wear easily removable clothing for the cavity search......

I'd eat a BIG meal at Chi-Chi's just in case. That'll fix'em.

[lllovell]

:ROTFL: We knew her before she went bad!

I love it!

Here is some pixie dust for a happy/quick/cavity search free flight :wizard:

Laura

[Colorado Belle]

Back in the day, before I went bad....
I kinda got into it with someone re their use of HANDS around my breasts in their 'airport' search. And this was flying interisland in Hawaii where there was NO CHANCE that a plane could be hijacked, cuase there wasn't enough gas in it to go farther than Kauai...jeez.

I remember your story tho...and the fact that they 'questioned' your mom. The problem is that with what they pay these so called security people, they have a bunch of people who really dont' have a clue (IMHO) as to what they are looking for. So while they are grilling your mom and searching your cavity, the guy with the bomb gets on daplane...Ewwww!

Good luck tomorrow. Hope we don't hear about any 'ruckus' in NC on our local news.:ROTFL:

Edited: For about 20 years, I have spelled the word ruckus incorrectly, which was brought to my attention just now...that I had spelled it ruckas and another s.....if anyone was offended by seeing the word for rear end in the middle of another word, like pass or assinine (which are spelled correctly) I'm sorry...tho the misspelling was entirely unintentional...I even spelled it that way in Scrabble about a month ago and wasn't even challenged! I was also asked to reconsider the word 'boobies' so I replaced it with 'breasts' which would be more proper English. In either case, the post wasn't meant to be at all humorous...I was greatly offended by the 'security' procedure and felt when I complained, that I was 'checked' even more strenuously.

[JamJarJo]

YIKES:holymoly: ---- We're flying Delta tomorrow too.
Hopefully this means that all the TSA personnel will probably be too busy to go through all my son's medical supplies and tell me how many needles they will allow me to take on the plane and that I need to check the bag on instead. :huh: :crazy:

[Ginger]

I'll watch for you on the evening news. :ROTFL: :ROTFL: :ROTFL:

Seriously, have a wonderful time and I hope nothing eventful happens at the airport.

[carolina_yankee]

That's going to be a fun trip report!

How long until you're supposed to come back so we know whether or not to send a search party out to Guantanamo Bay?

We got into a shouting match with TSA in Orlando because they insisted in X-Raying very fast film that their own signage said could be hand-searched. We won, but I was expecting to be pulled aside at any moment.

In St. Louis, I was asked to remove my shoes (I didn't need to in Philly on the way out). When I politely said they always clear the machine, I was pulled aside and completely searched and bomb inspected. No second chances. No cavities, though. To make matters worse, I left my boarding pass in the computer bag by mistake. So it was in the scanner, and I was nowhere near it when they were asking for it. That wasn't fun.

Dirk

[athenna]

I remember that story, with what happened to you and your mom..ugh..I am sending tons of pixie dust your way that you don't have to go through this again.
We don't wanna hear about ya on the news.:howudoin:

[Pumpkinboy]

Ewwww, and I thought this was about Dentistry.

Seriously, good luck that the airport this time!

[Simba's Mom]

I'd eat a BIG meal at Chi-Chi's just in case. That'll fix'em.
:hahahaha: :hahahaha: :hahahaha:
Great idea-and lots of beans!

[PoohsPal]

I knew her when.... :p

Good luck Rwe!! Have a GREAT trip! :dust

[CRSNDSNY]

I'm waiting to hear how this went???!!! :Pokepoke: :clappingh :dancingba :hahahaha:

[RweTHEREyet]

Trip down on Delta could not have been any easier. No extra searching, touching, etc. Flight even landed early and that was great. The only problem is that it was one of those little jets that only seats 54 total, 18 rows of 2 on one side of the aisle and 1 seat on the other. Well, the other biggie is that there is next to no overhead storage whatsoever, so my carryon was taken and checked for me. Too bad it contained my iPod, laptop and movies, and all my gum. On the plus side, those little planes are the smoothest flight I have ever had, so the space thing is hard to complain about.

Trip back on SouthWest, another story. Thanks to my friends here on this board, I went to the concierge and had them print out my boarding pass--this was just great. Mine printed out fine. Could not print one for hubby, however, it said you must see a ticket agent. So, this morning, (Tuesday) we get up at 4:45 a.m., finish packing, eat some breakfast and head to the airport. The place was already jam packed and really hopping. Geesh, it was dark when we left the room and the airport is already a bustling city in itself. It appears that they have hubbies name on some terrorist list, yes that's right, my hubby with the last name of Miller, is on some list that says he is suspect and to not let him check in on-line. Well, we did check him in on-line on Delta going down, but 6 days later he is a no-go with SouthWest. We finally get him squared away at the ticket counter, and they tell us our bags may not make it on the plane, but we run around to Security to find that the line is half a mile long. We unfortunately get behind a family that has to disassemble their stroller and it takes forever. Once we get thru the scanners hubby has to re-pack his laptop, etc. I suggest that I run ahead and make sure the plane doesn't leave without us. He agrees, and I ask him what gate are we leaving from, he says, "we takeoff from Gate 127", so off I go. When I arrive they say we have 7 minutes before the plane takes off. I politely ask them not to leave without hubby, as he was on the shuttle right behind mine and will be there momentarily. I board and keep looking and looking for hubby. I keep looking and looking and looking and I finally see him walking on the plane just as they are about to close the door. Well, it appears that he gets thru security and then hops on the shuttle to Gates 0-99 :Pokepoke: , so he has to do a round trip on the shuttle thing and then run to our plane, which is the very last gate. Thank heavens the flight was not full and we did get 2 seats together. Needless to say we were both a little frazzled after that experience. Oh, I almost forgot to mention that we had two celebrities on our flight, Pete and Penny Penguin from SeaWorld. Yep, they had them in a crate with a cover over it. Seems they were headed for Boston.

Plane landed on time, and hip hio hooray, the bags did make it, so all is well, except that we both went straight to work from the airport. So, this morning I woke up at Old Key West and now just a few hours later here I am sitting at my desk. There is just something terribly wrong with that.

I am so pitiful. Since getting back this morning, I have already called to see if my waitlist for October cleared while I was gone. Not even unpacked and I am already worrying about the next trip.

And I guess we have to call SouthWest to find out how to get hubbies name off the terrorist list.

[carolina_yankee]

I wonder if your husband's delay gave them enough to put your luggage on board? :)

I'm glad you all got back safely. It has to be one of the more interesting travle stories ever. . .

Dirk

[Rozzie]

OMG Rwe!!!!!! What luck ya'll have!

Sorry you are back at work all ready, that just bites! I live in fantasy land for a couple of days post re-entry, hence my denying the need to clear my ticker! :tongue:

I agree on the Delta mini-jets, no room, but smooth as a baby's bottom!

[RweTHEREyet]

I wonder if your husband's delay gave them enough to put your luggage on board? :)

I'm glad you all got back safely. It has to be one of the more interesting travle stories ever. . .

Dirk

I am not sure. When I keyed in my Boarding Pass at the kiosk, the monitor showed a big huge flashing message------------LESS THAN 45 MINUTES TO DEPARTURE, YOUR BAGS MAY NOT MAKE IT ON YOUR PLANE. We headed to the security check-in within 5 minutes of that happening, so I am not sure. I thought we were right at the 45 minute mark, so maybe they give themselves some wiggle room with that 45 minute benchmark.

If you think this story is interesting, one day I will post about travelling with a George Foreman grill in my carry-on and what happened when I went thru Security.

[RweTHEREyet]

Agreed Rozzie, getting back to work sucks big time. When I hit the lottery, I am not going to have to worry about that.
:kickingco

[Rozzie]

If you think this story is interesting, one day I will post about travelling with a George Foreman grill in my carry-on and what happened when I went thru Security.

Do tell! Do tell! :jumpingbe

[RweTHEREyet]

I will, soon, but I honestly have to do some work, and it is a long story. But I promise to tell, maybe this weekend.

[Ginger]

When I hit the lottery, I am not going to have to worry about that.
:kickingco

You can buy a Powerball ticket on your way home. :)

[Colorado Belle]

Good Lord....
cavity searches and MR. Miller, the known terrorist , at least on SouthWest.
You must have been a bad, bad girl in a past life, RWE, or you keep using the words bomb in every other sentence. I no longer write: she is da bomb because of that very reason.....big brother sees all.

you will have to write to SW and see what gives with the designation and yes, how can you get hubby off of it.

But other than THAT, hope your trip was delightful. And as for waitlist October...when are you going? We have a group organizing for that first week ya know! THere is POS and grand gatherings to plan!

:jumpingbe

[CRSNDSNY]

If you think this story is interesting, one day I will post about travelling with a George Foreman grill in my carry-on and what happened when I went thru Security.
Hmmm...I might be able to do one better than that. Ask my Mom what happened during our last trip when we were going through Philadelphia airport security. She was carrying my small suitcase which contained my (sorry guys...) electric breast pump. Let's just say that she's 50+ yo and obviously couldn't tell security it wasn't her bag. :teacher: :o

[Blue&Gold]

Good Lord....
cavity searches and MR. Miller, the known terrorist , at least on SouthWest.


I know everyone is being (mostly) lighthearted about this, but please consider just how challenging keeping commercial aviation "safe" is in the current environment. I'm not rushing to the defense of the TSA, because some of their methodology and training standardization is questionable---allow me to share how frustrating and annoying it is to be searched while in full uniform as a US Navy Commander (with over 50 combat missions in Afghanistan and Iraq under my belt, I like to think I'm one of the good guys...) However, is it so far-fetched that a terrorist could impersonate a military member? So, I grit my teeth and take my shoes off... Similarly, without insight into the specifics of the FBI's watch lists, don't assume that there isn't a legitimate "Miller" out there worth watching. I personally know a US Army General Officer whose name matches a former member of the Provisional IRA and has to deal with the watch list every time he flies. The guy who tried to blow up an airliner with his shoe was named Richard Reid---not every bad guy is going to be an extra from a Chuck Norris movie.

OK... Back to pixie dust and Neverland. I deal with the nightmares in my "real life" and come to Disney to escape...

[dvcconvert]

Ask my Mom what happened during our last trip when we were going through Philadelphia airport security. She was carrying my small suitcase which contained my (sorry guys...) electric breast pump.

I'm sorry but -- :ROTFL: :ROTFL: :ROTFL: :ROTFL:

Did they think she'd be using that to enrich plutonimum??

:magnify: :laughing: :ROTFL: :help:

[CRSNDSNY]

:lmbo: My Mom was embarassed that they would think it was some sort of sex toy. :jawdroppi :tsktsk: :Pssst:

[jnrrt]

Okay, and I got pulled into the "special" room and searched in four different airports in Europe on a tour once because I'd brought my metronome. Couldn't blame them though - small, black plastic box with a dial, makes ticking sounds, check, check, check.

Of course, they didn't just take my word for it when I said, "But I just needed the pitch a to practice on the trip, really!!!"

Oh, another woe of a music geek.

[cobbler]

Good gracious you just don't have any luck with flying do you??
Hopefully things will go better in the future.

[CRSNDSNY]

Okay, and I got pulled into the "special" room and searched in four different airports in Europe on a tour once because I'd brought my metronome. Couldn't blame them though - small, black plastic box with a dial, makes ticking sounds, check, check, check.

Of course, they didn't just take my word for it when I said, "But I just needed the pitch a to practice on the trip, really!!!"

Oh, another woe of a music geek.
That's funny. I would have never thought a metronome would have caused so much hassle! LOL

[greenban]

After reading about all these horror stories of flying/searching/spelling (ruckus)/music(tick-tick), and not making light of CB's gropping experience, DW & I decided that any TSA agent that wants to squueze my manaries (say man-a-ries out loud if still confused) can just go ahead and have a good time, anything is better than the small rooms, dental (cavity) searches or the no fly list.

Of course, out of the last 8 trips to the World, we drove 7, and bypassed all this nonsense!

-Tony

[Simba's Mom]

Okay, and I got pulled into the "special" room and searched in four different airports in Europe on a tour once because I'd brought my metronome. Couldn't blame them though - small, black plastic box with a dial, makes ticking sounds, check, check, check.

Of course, they didn't just take my word for it when I said, "But I just needed the pitch a to practice on the trip, really!!!"

Oh, another woe of a music geek.
That's so funny! Wait til I tell my son (another music geek). I know that when he took his mouthpiece on vacation once (he insists on practicing every day), they asked airport what it was, and when he told them, they really gave him a strange look. And I know that more than once, they've taken his trumpet all apart to search it. This was at carry-on-they wanted him to check his trumpet, no way!

[Stimpy]

Rwe, maybe you and Dh should consider driving or Amtrak ;)

These stories are all funny....now. I'm sure they were tough to go through at the time!

And I definately see Blue&Gold's point. I would much rather go through the "hassle" of security if it will help keep us safer. We always take our shoes off, fold up the stroller before we get to the check-point and put everything on the conveyer belt.

I do wish the TSA agents could agree on things though. On our flight down 2 weeks ago, 1 agent told me to take off DD's (age2) shoes off and then I carry her through with me. As I'm taking her shoes off the other agent on the other side tells me she doesn't have to take the shoes off....by that point I already had them off...no biggie. Then the other agent tells me DD has to walk herself, again not a big deal, but the first agent came back and said to the other "I already told her she could CARRY her baby!" Both were very nice to me and DD but they kind of scared me the way they started getting into it with each other! :bugeyed: So I told DD to RUN to Daddy on the other side, we grabbed our stuff and got out of there quickly! ;)

[Blue&Gold]

Like I said... Training and standardization leave something to be desired.


FWIW, there is some intentional "changing of the rules" because routines are easily exploited. So some places, you take off your shoes. Other places and times you don't. What shouldn't happen is two agents at the same site thinking two different standards are in effect.

[RweTHEREyet]

You can buy a Powerball ticket on your way home. :)


Hey Ginger, was it you that won the $200,000 last night?

[jnrrt]

That's so funny! Wait til I tell my son (another music geek). I know that when he took his mouthpiece on vacation once (he insists on practicing every day), they asked airport what it was, and when he told them, they really gave him a strange look. And I know that more than once, they've taken his trumpet all apart to search it. This was at carry-on-they wanted him to check his trumpet, no way!

Yep, yet another reason to play small instruments. My friends who play cello and bass have to actually buy another seat for their instruments so they don't have to check them. And you should see them try to take them on the subway.

[Ginger]

Hey Ginger, was it you that won the $200,000 last night?

No wasn't me. I haven't bought a ticket yet.

[RweTHEREyet]

Me neither, but I just might have to before the drawing this weekend. Sure could buy a lot of DVC points with that kind of winnings.

[Colorado Belle]

I agree with you 100% Blue&Gold, and I am willing to do anything to help prevent terrorism. I'll spare you my thoughts re that any self-respecting terrorist (I know, an oxymoron) would study the X-ray technology and search methods and figure out a way to by-pass them... because it appears that past terrorists aren't all that smart and leave a trail that even my golden retrievor could follow.

I've learned NOT to make any jokes during the screening procedures and to always take off my shoes and glasses. I think the 'rays' pick up on some underwire bras, and that might be what caused the 'copping a feel' incident!:holymoly: And it really wasn't all that traumatic (I'm a big girl!); it was just an invasion of my personal space and made me feisty.

Greenban...now we all know how much froggies like their man-a-ries groped anyway. I've been told that you guys do daily self-checks to make sure that the boys are still there, where you left them!:jumpingbe . I think most frogs would actually pay to get checked. (But remember you can only check two bags per airline ticket). And no, I took no offense at your making light of the issue...as Stimpy said, while it was uncomfortable at the time, in retrospect, it really is funny.

BTW, when you buy an extra seat for a TUBA, does it get two checked bags and a carry on too? No wonder lots of bands travel by bus...extra seat purchases sure could get expensive!

[greenban]

I agree with you 100% Blue&Gold, and I am willing to do anything to help prevent terrorism. I'll spare you my thoughts re that any self-respecting terrorist (I know, an oxymoron) would study the X-ray technology and search methods and figure out a way to by-pass them... because it appears that past terrorists aren't all that smart and leave a trail that even my golden retrievor could follow.

I've learned NOT to make any jokes during the screening procedures and to always take off my shoes and glasses. I think the 'rays' pick up on some underwire bras, and that might be what caused the 'copping a feel' incident!:holymoly: And it really wasn't all that traumatic (I'm a big girl!); it was just an invasion of my personal space and made me feisty.

Greenban...now we all know how much froggies like their man-a-ries groped anyway. I've been told that you guys do daily self-checks to make sure that the boys are still there, where you left them!:jumpingbe . I think most frogs would actually pay to get checked. (But remember you can only check two bags per airline ticket). And no, I took no offense at your making light of the issue...as Stimpy said, while it was uncomfortable at the time, in retrospect, it really is funny.

BTW, when you buy an extra seat for a TUBA, does it get two checked bags and a carry on too? No wonder lots of bands travel by bus...extra seat purchases sure could get expensive!

No, but it does get a snack, drink and meal if provided on the flight!

Sousaphones do get an additional luggage allowance!

-Tony



Boys! Boys! Now where did I leave you guys today? ......:headbange

[Colorado Belle]

Tony, this is just specially for you:
Notice the hidden mickey (the skull was the work of a bored graphic artist, but the hidden mickey...well that's just pure nature)

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