What happens if you Don't get your trade?

[tinker_me_happy]

My friend and I bought DVC last August. I am going "home" for the first time in Aug 08 and banked all my 2007 points for that trip. My friend banked all of her 2007 and a used small portion of her 2008 for an Interval exchange for Aug of this year. So far she has not been matched up. The rep she spoke to told her not to worry because a lot of people don't look to exchange out until 60-90 days prior. I am afraid to even ask her about it anymore because she is so nervous! What happens to her points if the match doesn't come thru?? I am especially worried because I want to trade out for 2010. My week will not be flexible as I do not get to pick my vacation at work. {I will most likely also have a week in August that is assigned to me for vacation.} However, unlike my friend, who has only one place she is asking for (Hershey PA) I will be more flexible as to where we go. I am looking at a general areas (Key West, Carribean Islands, or Southern California).

[tomandrobin]

My friend and I bought DVC last August. I am going "home" for the first time in Aug 08 and banked all my 2007 points for that trip. My friend banked all of her 2007 and a used small portion of her 2008 for an Interval exchange for Aug of this year. So far she has not been matched up. The rep she spoke to told her not to worry because a lot of people don't look to exchange out until 60-90 days prior. I am afraid to even ask her about it anymore because she is so nervous! What happens to her points if the match doesn't come thru?? I am especially worried because I want to trade out for 2010. My week will not be flexible as I do not get to pick my vacation at work. {I will most likely also have a week in August that is assigned to me for vacation.} However, unlike my friend, who has only one place she is asking for (Hershey PA) I will be more flexible as to where we go. I am looking at a general areas (Key West, Carribean Islands, or Southern California).

More then likely you will get an exchange, but the person at MS is correct that it will be 30-90 days out, especially since your search is so broad. I was just checking II inventory for August in the Carribean. Only Oyster Bay on St Maarten had anything for then, in a efficiency.

[tinker_me_happy]

But What happens to your points if a match isn't made? And how do you check availability? I am not exchanging until August of 2010, but it would be nice to check out what else if available.

[tomandrobin]

However, unlike my friend, who has only one place she is asking for (Hershey PA)

This actually will be a tough trade. Kids are out of school and her requests are limited to one room choice or week at the resort.

[tomandrobin]

But What happens to your points if a match isn't made? And how do you check availability? I am not exchanging until August of 2010, but it would be nice to check out what else if available.

I have another timeshare that allows me to search available inventory on II. One of the negatives with Disney with II, is they do not allow you to do your own searches on II. I'm not sure about your points. Most people get there requests, take a different resort or get cold feet and cancel thier request. I will research some more for you.

[tinker_me_happy]

THANKS!! I am REALLY nervous for my friend. I won't know until sometime between the end of October and mid November of 2009 when my vacation will be for 2010. Is that too late to start a search?

[tomandrobin]

THANKS!! I am REALLY nervous for my friend. I won't know until sometime between the end of October and mid November of 2009 when my vacation will be for 2010. Is that too late to start a search?

The rule is the longer you have an on-going search, the better your chances are for a successful trade. Also, the broader your search and being flexible helps.

[tomandrobin]

Ok, if you deposit your points into II, at that point they are gone. You have to use them in II or lose them.

What resorts and unit size are you looking to exchange into via II?

[tinker_me_happy]

I will need a 2 bedroom villa. I really want to be near or preferrably ON a beach. Will be traveling with myself DH and our three kids who will be 18, 20, and 21. Who knows, maybe even an SO or two too! The Florida keys seemed to have a lot of choices. Haven't really looked into southern California much, and the caribbean islands are definately a possibility. My biggest problem will be which week I get at work for vacation and airfare! (Thus the search areas~!)

[JimP]

Have you considered a direct exchange with someone? DVC is highly desired and you can probably find someone who would be happy to trade units with you.

/Jim

[tinker_me_happy]

Have you considered a direct exchange with someone? DVC is highly desired and you can probably find someone who would be happy to trade units with you.

/Jim
I am new to this whole thing. I didn't know that was an option. How does that work?

[JimP]

I am not sure if it OK to post links to other sites... so I will let someone else do it. I am evidently still on probabion here "waiting to pass ROFR" status. Which means I am still learning.

Someone with more experience than me on this forum's rules can give you a link to a site that has a lot of direct exchange possibilities. Since people love going to DVC resorts... you can find someone who wants to trade... book each other units at your home resorts under each other's names as guests... and then you have done an exchange.

It makes sense to try and get some references... especially if they check in first ;)

The advantage is owners at resorts can book based on total resort availability (if on points)... or have fixed weeks pre-assigned. By contrast... with an II exchange, you only get a unit if someone at the resort trades in their unit.

/Jim

[tomandrobin]

Have you considered a direct exchange with someone? DVC is highly desired and you can probably find someone who would be happy to trade units with you.

/Jim

Jim...The waiting to pass ROFR changes as your post count increases.

[tomandrobin]

Besides doing a direct exchange, I would also suggest renting your points and renting a unit from a site like redweek.com

If you go to a site like Tug2.net you could post an exchange wanted post. There are over 3800 RCI resorts that can not trade into DVC. Also, DVC only trades into 500 of the 2200 resorts in II.

[JimP]

Jim...The waiting to pass ROFR changes as your post count increases.
Cool... it is nice to know that I am not necessarily stupid ;)

What are the post values for various levels. I am not sure I will like being promoted to studio... since I dislike staying in them.

Once I am promoted to 1BR I can check this site when my wife, but no kids are in the room.

A promotion to 2BR means I can share my posts with my entire family... that will be nice ;)... except that I will probably run out of things to say before that happens!

/Jim

[tinker_me_happy]

Besides doing a direct exchange, I would also suggest renting your points and renting a unit from a site like redweek.com

If you go to a site like Tug2.net you could post an exchange wanted post. There are over 3800 RCI resorts that can not trade into DVC. Also, DVC only trades into 500 of the 2200 resorts in II.

WOW! 2200 resorts! I was excited at the possibility of choosing from 500 different places! I didn't realize there were so many options! It's good to know I don't HAVE to go thru DVC member services to do an exchange.

[BJFOSS]

just some FYI. not all of RCI's resorts are 4 and 5 star resorts. be watchful of that.

[tomandrobin]

Heck, not all the II resorts are 4 or 5 star. I would review trip advisor, tug or any other review site before making any exchange. Also, make sure the resort is not under going any renovations.

[tinker_me_happy]

Ok next time I have a few minutes (HA!) I'm going to the DVC member page and checking out some resorts. I will post my likes here and hope some of you will have heard of them. :fingerscr

[rlcarmichael]

It's all LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION. Disney has the location.

Personally, I think the number of points for an exchange are way too high. Plus you pay a $95 transfer fee. You are better off RENTING your points out and paying cash to stay many times.

[tinker_me_happy]

Personally, I think the number of points for an exchange are way too high. Plus you pay a $95 transfer fee. You are better off RENTING your points out and paying cash to stay many times.

Not always. I just did a comparison with one resort I was checking out. To rent the same number of points it would cost me (in points) I would have to rent them out for $10.80per point. That would get me exactly enough cash to pay for the same amount of nights I would get if paying with points. I realize that is rack rate and I MAY be able to get it for less, but I have to go by the rates available. Yes I would have to pay a $95 fee for the exchange, but I would also be spending time and possibly money (mail, gas to drive to post office, certified letters or long distance phone calls) setting up the reservation for whomever rented my points. I have not rented points before, but at least right now with the stage I am in (NEWBY) I don't want the hassle of renting out points just to get cash to pay for a place. I can have DVC deal with the hassle! Maybe in a few years, but I don't see the incentive in doing it this way yet.

[JimP]

Not always. I just did a comparison with one resort I was checking out. To rent the same number of points it would cost me (in points) I would have to rent them out for $10.80per point. That would get me exactly enough cash to pay for the same amount of nights I would get if paying with points. I realize that is rack rate and I MAY be able to get it for less, but I have to go by the rates available. Yes I would have to pay a $95 fee for the exchange, but I would also be spending time and possibly money (mail, gas to drive to post office, certified letters or long distance phone calls) setting up the reservation for whomever rented my points. I have not rented points before, but at least right now with the stage I am in (NEWBY) I don't want the hassle of renting out points just to get cash to pay for a place. I can have DVC deal with the hassle! Maybe in a few years, but I don't see the incentive in doing it this way yet.
I think you are grossly underestimating just how innexpensive the elite of the TUG crowd are able to get units.

Here is an example: One of the top rated timeshares on the west coast (I think it is possibly TUG's top rated resort) is the Four Seasons Aviara in Carlsbad (San Diego County). I understand that the rack rate for a 2BR unit is about $1200/night in the off-season, rising to about $1500/night during the vacation season. I know people who routinely stay there using exchanges for under $650 for a WEEK (not night) during peak season. Similar situations exist for other top rated resorts such as the Harborside Atlantis.

I know people who would gladly direct exchange a top rated Hawaii 2BR beachfront resort if I booked them a 1BR unit at my home resort (BWV) as a direct exchange. I have not done that... because I know how to get them cheaper if I want. ;)

My point is to not use the "rack rate" when determining value. There are people out there who get such good deals that it is truely unbelievable. It makes sense to become friends with some. ;) Your being able to book a direct exchange at DVC is quite valuable to them because even though folks are good at getting exchanges... you offer predictability in getting them the exact dates that they want.

/Jim

[spiceycat]

also register and sign up for
www.skyauction.com

once a year in Nov/Dec - they might have a sale a week for under $200 - last year it was $175.

any in there stock and it is good for more than a year. this is part of RCI - so mostly RCI timeshares. That say there are some that don't wish to participate in this program and don't.

[Daitcher]

I will need a 2 bedroom villa. I really want to be near or preferrably ON a beach. Will be traveling with myself DH and our three kids who will be 18, 20, and 21. Who knows, maybe even an SO or two too! The Florida keys seemed to have a lot of choices. Haven't really looked into southern California much, and the caribbean islands are definately a possibility. My biggest problem will be which week I get at work for vacation and airfare! (Thus the search areas~!)


I hate to say this but if you bought DVC with the idea of exchanging you've made a HUGE mistake. That glossy little flyer they give you with all those properties isn't worth the paper it is printed on.

Do yourself a favor, rent points to cover the costs of going elsewhere. Hit sites like Redweek.com or contact the resort direct via their website. Book it without the so called "exchange" through DVC. It is a joke.



DAVE

[tinker_me_happy]

Hi Dave, Can you give me a little more detail why you feel that way? Have you had a problem. I am a new DVC owner, and yes PART of the appeal is the ability to exchange, but not the main reason I purchased. Is it GETTING the exchange that is the issue? Or are there more unsavory problems that are being "glossed" over?
Thanks
Karen

[Daitcher]

Hi Dave, Can you give me a little more detail why you feel that way? Have you had a problem. I am a new DVC owner, and yes PART of the appeal is the ability to exchange, but not the main reason I purchased. Is it GETTING the exchange that is the issue? Or are there more unsavory problems that are being "glossed" over?
Thanks
Karen



Sure.

This is simply my opinion but I'd say many share the same opinion.

First the trades are poor values when you factor in the $95 fee. For every one you can show me that appears good I'll show you ten maybe the rest that are poor values.

That poor value leads me to the fact that with DVC you do NOT have direct access to II (Interval International). That is key for a variety of reasons. First II gives you access to far more places not just this "hand picked" DVC selection. It also gives you access to the II deals, bonus weeks, etc. It is also nice to browse what is available at any given time. DVC you don't get this access. Marriott and most others do give this to you.

Next DVC annual dues (AD) are very high. Why trade DVC for something else when you pay high dues for DVC? It is like downgrading financially. Like trading your Lexus for a week for a Kia. You'd be far better off buying a cheap Marriott resale and trading into DVC. You'd be trading a lower cost resort for a higher cost one, not the reverse like you do when you trade DVC. There are some exceptions obviously but good luck getting one of those.

Like Jim stated earlier you can get weeks for dirt cheap if you know how to play the II game. Many do so.

I look at DVC as ONLY WDW stays or for VB or HH. That is it. Anything else including the cruise line can be had much cheaper with other avenues and a little due diligence.

Hope this helps.


DAVE

[tinker_me_happy]

Thanks. I see your point. But if I wanted to trade out once in 10 or 15 years do you think it is still a bad deal? I could certainly do a more "personal" trade/exchange with someone. Right now I am just not looking at trading out enough to do all the work myself. Who knows maybe by the time I am ready to do a trade in a couple years I will feel more comfortable with the idea.

[JimP]

Like trading your Lexus for a week for a Kia.
Perfect analogy. DVC is a premium condo. Not because of room size... not because of luxury... not because of breathtaking views. It DOES have one thing that no other condo has... namely a location smack in the middle of WDW... complete with the full compliment of resort activities and transportation. We DVC members pay dearly for that.

Rather than trade your Lexus for a Kia... you are better off buying a Kia and trading it for a Lexus. I routinely trade non-DVC condos to stay in WDW... but I have never done the reverse. I believe that if I ever run into an "excess DVC point" problem... then I will sell the points rather than trade them away for bad deals.
By owning both DVC and other timeshares... I think it is the best of both worlds. I have posted this before... but my basic WDW pattern goes something like:

1) Start an II exchange request with an inexpensive condo for a stay at WDW >1 year in advance... for both weeks of my travel.
2) Book home resort at 11 months for 12 days (Sun - Thur, including 1 weekend)
3) Book airline Frequent Flier tickets at 330 days.
4) Book a different DVC resort at 7 months (if desired)... canceling overlap days made in step 2.
5) Book ADRs at 6 months
6) At anytime along the way if an II inbound exchange (step 1) happens, then cancel duplicate DVC days... bank the saved points... possibly change DVC point vacation days to line up (resort/unit type) with II exchange to prevent room change.
7) Cancel any ungranted II exchange request at 31 days.

The way I look at it... a week in a 2BR using DVC points costs me about +/- 300 DVC points. At $5 in MFs.. that is a $1500 week minimum... or at rental rate of $11... it is $3300 week.

By contrast... my more inexpensive condo costs $400 in MF's... plus $139 II exchange fee, plus $95 DVC fee. Total cost is $634.

If I have a TUG buddy book for me (he has cheaper exchange options)... total cost is about $435 including a $40 II guest certificate and the $95 DVC fee. and he doesn't charge me any extra.

If my II exchange request comes through within 59 days of arrival... my MF's are only $160... so my total cost is $394.

All 3 options ($634 / $435/ $394) are better than $1500 or $3300 through disney... so I am happy to take them, and then bank my DVC points for future trips!

I would suggest that people interested in exchanging join and learn from the folks at TUG. I am amazed at the deals people get. For example... my buddy is staying in an OKW 3BR GV this fall for just a few hundred bucks total cost... and already has a 2nd week preceding it in a BCV 1BR condo. His total cost is less than booking the two weeks in studio using DVC points.

/Jim

[glypnirsgirl]

There are amazing deals over there. I found Mouseowners from a referral at TUG .... I am now here alot more often than there. TUG is a great resource. I highly recommend it also.

Elaine :thumbsup:

[JimP]

I found Mouseowners from a referral at TUG
Same here!

/Jim

[Daitcher]

Thanks. I see your point. But if I wanted to trade out once in 10 or 15 years do you think it is still a bad deal? I could certainly do a more "personal" trade/exchange with someone. Right now I am just not looking at trading out enough to do all the work myself. Who knows maybe by the time I am ready to do a trade in a couple years I will feel more comfortable with the idea.



I've always said that the points are yours to do with as you see fit. I'm not about to tell folks how to use their points. I'm simply letting you know that the exchange isn't worth it for a variety of reasons. That in no way means that you can't or shouldn't do it. It would be a waste, IMO, but as long as you are comfortable knowing that you are throwing away cash then go for it.

At the end of the day they are your points. So sure trade whenever you like. Many do trade out of DVC and are quite happy doing it.


DAVE

[Daitcher]

Perfect analogy. DVC is a premium condo. Not because of room size... not because of luxury... not because of breathtaking views. It DOES have one thing that no other condo has... namely a location smack in the middle of WDW... complete with the full compliment of resort activities and transportation. We DVC members pay dearly for that.

/Jim




Jim your entire quote was excellent. Do you happen to know Dean from TUG?????

Nice to have your expertise here at MO.



DAVE

[tinker_me_happy]

Okay, so aside from the fact that it would not be a wise choice from a money stand point, I would still like to know what happens if you don't get your trade? Say you want a specific resort during a specific week and they can't match you up. What happens to your points? Are they still good? Do they try and find you another match? The DVC website is useless for any real information. And I am not looking to book right now so I don't want to spend time on the phone with member services and possibly get misinformation.

Also:
When it comes time, I am now considering some of the better options for trading out as mentioned above. Has anyone heard of Coconut Beach Resort on Key West? Stayed there? Is it worth spending the extra money to join some of those websites if I am not planning on trading out very often? (Can you tell I am NEW to the whole time share thing???)

THANKS

[mountainjourno]

Thanks. I see your point. But if I wanted to trade out once in 10 or 15 years do you think it is still a bad deal? I could certainly do a more "personal" trade/exchange with someone. Right now I am just not looking at trading out enough to do all the work myself. Who knows maybe by the time I am ready to do a trade in a couple years I will feel more comfortable with the idea.


You're fine - it's really only if you planned to trade frequently that you might have issues. But once every 10 to 15 years is really not a problem.

My mom trades frequently, and loves it. She's a former travel agent (did so for more than 20 years) and truly believes she has a good deal with DVC. Sure - you can always do better if you're willing to put in the work. But I personally can't be bothered, so I'm happy with my DVC membership and in the process of adding on another 150 points (which will bring me up to 707 points! OMG! I started out with 185 and thought that was a lot...and that was only two years ago! I think I'm obsessed...)

But yeah - if you bought with the intention of not staying at DVC very often, you could do much better with a cheaper timeshare. But it doesn't sound like that's your plan so enjoy!

[JimP]

Jim your entire quote was excellent. Do you happen to know Dean from TUG?????

Dave,

Yes... I have read lots of Dean's posts on Tug and elsewhere... and also the post of many other smart people. I have also had several PM's with Dean. I appreciate his knowledge... especially of DVC.

A word of warning... There are a lot of people on TUG that think us DVC people have lost our marbles. I don't agree... but you have to view things from their perspective of much cheaper (and exceptionally nice) condo vacations than we get at DVC. As I mentioned in my other posts... a combination of DVC and other condos works well for me.

Regarding the question about specific resort ratings... the first place that I go is the resort rating boards on TUG. There is an annual fee, but it is innexpensive is probably the single most reliable way of comparing resorts that I have seen.

/Jim

[tomandrobin]

Yes... I have read lots of Dean's posts on Tug and elsewhere... and also the post of many other smart people. I have also had several PM's with Dean. I appreciate his knowledge... especially of DVC.

Dean is the Man!! I wish he would post over here!


A word of warning... There are a lot of people on TUG that think us DVC people have lost our marbles. I don't agree... but you have to view things from their perspective of much cheaper (and exceptionally nice) condo vacations than we get at DVC. As I mentioned in my other posts... a combination of DVC and other condos works well for me.

I was amazed the first time I mention Disney on a post over on Tug. I got ambused from all sides, putting Disney down and calling me names, etc. Which is so ironic, since all timeshares are welcomed to thier site but DVC gets no respect on Tug. One thing I do find funny though, is how many Disney (DVC) sightings are posted on their boards.


Regarding the question about specific resort ratings... the first place that I go is the resort rating boards on TUG. There is an annual fee, but it is innexpensive is probably the single most reliable way of comparing resorts that I have seen.

I agree with the tug reviews also. I would also compare those to trip adviser reviews. The only bad thing about trip adviser is you will get too many people who will post a negative review because something that was not the Resorts fault or they have an axe to grind.

[JimP]

One thing I do find funny though, is how many Disney (DVC) sightings are posted on their boards.
The TUG crowd really loves to get great deals for peanuts. Many (if not most) of the folks love DVC trades as part of their vacations.

I certainly have some TUG genetic traits too. But for me... it is not JUST the game of how cheaply can I get the worlds best units... but I also like to predictably plan my vacations. Which is why when it comes to DVC... I like the combination of predictably booking my trips using points... and then trying to get good deals before I hit my cancellation dates and/or booking windows.

/Jim

[Hankthetank]

[QUOTE=tinker_me_happy;147199]Okay, so aside from the fact that it would not be a wise choice from a money stand point, I would still like to know what happens if you don't get your trade? Say you want a specific resort during a specific week and they can't match you up. What happens to your points? Are they still good? Do they try and find you another match?



I am new and just made my first reservations as a DVC member. The first is in October (over my birthday) at SSR and the other I am trying to get to Maui in January or February 09. I was told before I bought DVC that booking Hawaii in Jan/Feb 09 might be difficult but future bookings should get easier if I plan ahead with plenty of time. Well when I called member services to book Maui, the first opening they had for all of Hawaii was April 2010:headbrick. I put in a search giving my time perameters and a few resorts that I would like to stay at. When booking, they kept reiterating "Make sure the resorts you choose are ones you know you would stay at." My guess is that they probably don't want you calling back complaining about the accomodations not being what you expected-so do your research ahead of time. I put down the $95 booking fee and was told that if nothing comes up or too much time goes by and I want to look elsewhere, then I could cancel the search and get my $95 and points back. If something does become available but for whatever reason, I do not like that option, I can reject it but I lose the $95 booking fee. But from what I was told, I would not lose my points to II if I did not book the trip. I hope some of the more seasoned DVC'ers here can confirm that for me. I hope that is the correct info, but again-I am very new at this. But at the very least, I am excited for my birthday trip in October:woohoo:

[tomandrobin]

The TUG crowd really loves to get great deals for peanuts. Many (if not most) of the folks love DVC trades as part of their vacations.

I certainly have some TUG genetic traits too. But for me... it is not JUST the game of how cheaply can I get the worlds best units... but I also like to predictably plan my vacations. Which is why when it comes to DVC... I like the combination of predictably booking my trips using points... and then trying to get good deals before I hit my cancellation dates and/or booking windows.

/Jim

I am with you, we wear both hats....actually three. We have our DVC hat, our II trader hat and our buy a quality timeshare hat. I like having the best of both worlds and always recommend to others to do the same.

[musical2]

I am with you, we wear both hats....actually three. We have our DVC hat, our II trader hat and our buy a quality timeshare hat. I like having the best of both worlds and always recommend to others to do the same.

Hey! That's us too! We have our DVC (OKW), our quality timeshare (Marriott Manor Club), and our II trader (Aruba Renaissance). They each play roles in our vacationing experience. We do on occasion use our Marriott Manor Club to trade into other Marriotts though (Ko'Olina this year). We use DVC just for DVC. And the Aruba Renaissance pulls in some good trades through II (even DVC).

[tinker_me_happy]

[QUOTE=tinker_me_happy;147199]Okay, so aside from the fact that it would not be a wise choice from a money stand point, I would still like to know what happens if you don't get your trade? Say you want a specific resort during a specific week and they can't match you up. What happens to your points? Are they still good? Do they try and find you another match?



I am new and just made my first reservations as a DVC member. The first is in October (over my birthday) at SSR and the other I am trying to get to Maui in January or February 09. I was told before I bought DVC that booking Hawaii in Jan/Feb 09 might be difficult but future bookings should get easier if I plan ahead with plenty of time. Well when I called member services to book Maui, the first opening they had for all of Hawaii was April 2010:headbrick. I put in a search giving my time perameters and a few resorts that I would like to stay at. When booking, they kept reiterating "Make sure the resorts you choose are ones you know you would stay at." My guess is that they probably don't want you calling back complaining about the accomodations not being what you expected-so do your research ahead of time. I put down the $95 booking fee and was told that if nothing comes up or too much time goes by and I want to look elsewhere, then I could cancel the search and get my $95 and points back. If something does become available but for whatever reason, I do not like that option, I can reject it but I lose the $95 booking fee. But from what I was told, I would not lose my points to II if I did not book the trip. I hope some of the more seasoned DVC'ers here can confirm that for me. I hope that is the correct info, but again-I am very new at this. But at the very least, I am excited for my birthday trip in October:woohoo:


Thanks!

[tomandrobin]

[quote=tinker_me_happy;147199]I am new and just made my first reservations as a DVC member. The first is in October (over my birthday) at SSR and the other I am trying to get to Maui in January or February 09. I was told before I bought DVC that booking Hawaii in Jan/Feb 09 might be difficult but future bookings should get easier if I plan ahead with plenty of time. Well when I called member services to book Maui, the first opening they had for all of Hawaii was April 2010:headbrick. I put in a search giving my time perameters and a few resorts that I would like to stay at. When booking, they kept reiterating "Make sure the resorts you choose are ones you know you would stay at." My guess is that they probably don't want you calling back complaining about the accomodations not being what you expected-so do your research ahead of time. I put down the $95 booking fee and was told that if nothing comes up or too much time goes by and I want to look elsewhere, then I could cancel the search and get my $95 and points back. If something does become available but for whatever reason, I do not like that option, I can reject it but I lose the $95 booking fee. But from what I was told, I would not lose my points to II if I did not book the trip. I hope some of the more seasoned DVC'ers here can confirm that for me. I hope that is the correct info, but again-I am very new at this. But at the very least, I am excited for my birthday trip in October:woohoo:

There have been two deposits in II for Westin Maui for January 2009, already this year. More then likely will be another in the summer for January. I know that there wil lbe Westing Maui weeks in II before 2010. The person at MS I think is misinforming you. As a Westin owner, I know that owners at the resort can make reservations 12-8 months out, then its open to other "in system" owners, then II.

[JimP]

Hawaii is doing very poorly right now... probably because of the airline situation. Two major carriers closed (Aloha and ???)... and the other airlines are now charging sky-high (no pun intended) fares. Things will eventually stabalize... but I think TONS of people are canceling their trips. It is easy to exchange there right now... but can you afford the airfare?

/Jim

[JimP]

I just got an exchange into The Grand Mayan Nuevo Vallarta for New Year's 2009/2010 :). My total cost was an inexpensive deposit worth about $120 in MFs... plus $129 exchange fee!!! Less than $250 total cost for a week in one of the nicest resorts anywhere during the busiest week of the year!!!

DW and I will be staying in a 1BR... and I have the option to upgrade to a 2BR lock off for a tad more (through a friend who exchanged the into a 2BR unit for the same week). We will take the 2BR, and give him our 1BR unit if we decide to bring our girls along.

I am only giving this example as reinforcement on why exchanging via DVC is not as good as other options. If I ever end up with excess DVC points... then I will probably try to convert them into cash rather than exchange into II.

/Jim

[Hankthetank]

Hawaii is doing very poorly right now... probably because of the airline situation. Two major carriers closed (Aloha and ???)... and the other airlines are now charging sky-high (no pun intended) fares. Things will eventually stabalize... but I think TONS of people are canceling their trips. It is easy to exchange there right now... but can you afford the airfare?

/Jim

Thanks Jim, those are good points. I am not worried about the airfare, I just want the trip in the books so I can start planning. My DW and I are planners by nature (DW by profession) so even though it has been only a week since we put in the search, we want to know-when are we going? If patience is a virtue, I am sorely lacking! At least in this department.
People will cancel, that is a fact. And for the reasons that Jim stated, more people than usual will probably cancel. So I will get up and go out for a run even though it is cold outside and raining cats and dogs-My Disney/Hawaii Cold Shower! That should take my mind off of my impatience.

[JerryR]

I have read through most of the responses to this thread, and I became very confused reading some of the information that is being passed along. It did not seem to correspond with the information on the DVC member web site explaining these trades. Therefore, I did what you should do - I contacted Member Services directly and spoke with a person there who does know what she's talking about and can explain all the ins and outs of doing II trades without getting you confused.
I can;t explain it all here, but if you are worried about the possibility og losing your DVC points, don't be. You will not lose your points. If you ask for a search, pay your $95 and your request cannot be met, your money will be returned. If you get confirmation on your request and then, for whatever reason, cancel that reservation, you will lose your $95, but not your points. You then have up to a year to rebook the reservation, after paying another $95, or make another request for another location, etc. Your window of opportunity to actually book the second reservation will change, depending on a number of factors that you should discuss with Member services. Too detailed here to get it in. However, you will not lose your points.
Just in passing, the II points chart on the member web site lists low, medium and high seasons, and various points that must be used for each season, but no dates that define those seasons. This is because those seasons may change from area to area and resort to resort. Some resorts are high season all the time. Others vary. Member services advise that you choose your location, choose your dates with alternates if possible, and call them and let them work it out for you. Ask all the questions you need to ask to get a full understanding of the process, which is not too awfully scary after all, and you'll likely do just fine. Do not rely on information you get here as being accurate. Folks may mean well, but if they have a misconstrued understanding of the exchange process, then so will you. Go straight to the horses's mouth, so to speak, and get it correctly right up front!
Good luck and enjoy your alternate locations.

[tinker_me_happy]

I have read through most of the responses to this thread, and I became very confused reading some of the information that is being passed along. It did not seem to correspond with the information on the DVC member web site explaining these trades. Therefore, I did what you should do - I contacted Member Services directly and spoke with a person there who does know what she's talking about and can explain all the ins and outs of doing II trades without getting you confused.
I can;t explain it all here, but if you are worried about the possibility og losing your DVC points, don't be. You will not lose your points. If you ask for a search, pay your $95 and your request cannot be met, your money will be returned. If you get confirmation on your request and then, for whatever reason, cancel that reservation, you will lose your $95, but not your points. You then have up to a year to rebook the reservation, after paying another $95, or make another request for another location, etc. Your window of opportunity to actually book the second reservation will change, depending on a number of factors that you should discuss with Member services. Too detailed here to get it in. However, you will not lose your points.
Just in passing, the II points chart on the member web site lists low, medium and high seasons, and various points that must be used for each season, but no dates that define those seasons. This is because those seasons may change from area to area and resort to resort. Some resorts are high season all the time. Others vary. Member services advise that you choose your location, choose your dates with alternates if possible, and call them and let them work it out for you. Ask all the questions you need to ask to get a full understanding of the process, which is not too awfully scary after all, and you'll likely do just fine. Do not rely on information you get here as being accurate. Folks may mean well, but if they have a misconstrued understanding of the exchange process, then so will you. Go straight to the horses's mouth, so to speak, and get it correctly right up front!
Good luck and enjoy your alternate locations.

Thanks Jerry, YOU actually answered my question! I did call member services to ask questions, but the hold time was longer than I cared to wait since I wasn't actually looking to book yet. I believe all the other discussion is around whether or not it makes sense from a money stand point to actually DO the trade.

[Daitcher]

I have read through most of the responses to this thread, and I became very confused reading some of the information that is being passed along. It did not seem to correspond with the information on the DVC member web site explaining these trades. Therefore, I did what you should do - I contacted Member Services directly and spoke with a person there who does know what she's talking about and can explain all the ins and outs of doing II trades without getting you confused.
I can;t explain it all here, but if you are worried about the possibility og losing your DVC points, don't be. You will not lose your points. If you ask for a search, pay your $95 and your request cannot be met, your money will be returned. If you get confirmation on your request and then, for whatever reason, cancel that reservation, you will lose your $95, but not your points. You then have up to a year to rebook the reservation, after paying another $95, or make another request for another location, etc. Your window of opportunity to actually book the second reservation will change, depending on a number of factors that you should discuss with Member services. Too detailed here to get it in. However, you will not lose your points.
Just in passing, the II points chart on the member web site lists low, medium and high seasons, and various points that must be used for each season, but no dates that define those seasons. This is because those seasons may change from area to area and resort to resort. Some resorts are high season all the time. Others vary. Member services advise that you choose your location, choose your dates with alternates if possible, and call them and let them work it out for you. Ask all the questions you need to ask to get a full understanding of the process, which is not too awfully scary after all, and you'll likely do just fine. Do not rely on information you get here as being accurate. Folks may mean well, but if they have a misconstrued understanding of the exchange process, then so will you. Go straight to the horses's mouth, so to speak, and get it correctly right up front!
Good luck and enjoy your alternate locations.



Ummmm.... I'm glad you have so much confidence in MS. I'll take my chances here anyday. I don't believe anyone told her she would lose her points.

Want to se how reliable MS is? Call back and talk to someone else and I'd bet you'll get different information.



DAVE

[tinker_me_happy]

Ummmm.... I'm glad you have so much confidence in MS. I'll take my chances here anyday. I don't believe anyone told her she would lose her points.

Want to se how reliable MS is? Call back and talk to someone else and I'd bet you'll get different information.



DAVE

Okay So I will ask again: If my trade doesn't come through (never mind if it is a good idea to do the trade or not, let's just say I put in for one) I understand I get the $95 booking fee back but WHAT HAPPENS TO MY POINTS?????????????????

[Daitcher]

Okay So I will ask again: If my trade doesn't come through (never mind if it is a good idea to do the trade or not, let's just say I put in for one) I understand I get the $95 booking fee back but WHAT HAPPENS TO MY POINTS?????????????????



No, you won't lose your points or your money so if you are intent on booking give it a try and let us know how it goes. Cancelling once confirmed has different scenarios so I'll lay them out in case you should need to cancel once confirmed.

60 days or more from check in: you can cancel but you need to pay the $95 again and you must travel within one year of your CANCEL DATE.

59 -14 days before check in: you can request exchanges 59 days to 24 hours prior to your new arrival date. Travel must occur within 1 year of CANCEL DATE and another $95 must be paid.

13 - 7 days out: you may request new exchanges 30 days to 24 hours out. must travel within 1 year and pay the $95 fee.

6 or less: you forfeit it and lose points and money.

As you can seee above it gets tricky if you cancel. Cancelling really means almost a forfeit of the points and $95 IMO. As hard as it is to get trades at times if you cancel inside 60 days you'll likely be sunk or forced into just taking anything available to use those points plus have fun getting airfare at anything less than top dollar 59 days out if at all.

Good luck with this. I know it is confusing but you may get lucky and an instant match could be found.


DAVE

[tinker_me_happy]

No, you won't lose your points or your money so if you are intent on booking give it a try and let us know how it goes.

Good luck with this. I know it is confusing but you may get lucky and an instant match could be found.


DAVE

I have not entirely decided that I will actually do an exchange, and I have a lot of choices so I am hopeful that a match could be made, should we decide to. My biggest worry was what happens to my points if they can not match. You say I won't lose them, but what happens to them? Does anyone know for sure? It sounds like they stay in the II system and I have to try for another exchange. Also from the information that I could find they are good for 24 months. But is that 24 months from when they get deposited for the original search? Or is that I can deposit them into II up to 24 months in advance to begin a search? It is all very confusing like you said. I am not so worried about the canceling. Sometimes bad stuff happens in life, but short of a disaster, once my vacation is booked, I'm going! The more I think about it, the more inclined I am toward renting my points and taking the cash to pay oop for our 2010 vacation. (At least that way I have a chance of getting a refund in the case of a disaster.) And it seems the hassle of renting points and using cash would end up being a lot less trouble!

[JimP]

The more I think about it, the more inclined I am toward renting my points and taking the cash to pay oop for our 2010 vacation.

Good choice!

IMHO... using DVC points for II exchange... is like using Perrier to water your lawn.

/Jim

[Carol]

I have not entirely decided that I will actually do an exchange, and I have a lot of choices so I am hopeful that a match could be made, should we decide to. My biggest worry was what happens to my points if they can not match. You say I won't lose them, but what happens to them? Does anyone know for sure? It sounds like they stay in the II system and I have to try for another exchange. Also from the information that I could find they are good for 24 months. But is that 24 months from when they get deposited for the original search? Or is that I can deposit them into II up to 24 months in advance to begin a search? It is all very confusing like you said. I am not so worried about the canceling. Sometimes bad stuff happens in life, but short of a disaster, once my vacation is booked, I'm going! The more I think about it, the more inclined I am toward renting my points and taking the cash to pay oop for our 2010 vacation. (At least that way I have a chance of getting a refund in the case of a disaster.) And it seems the hassle of renting points and using cash would end up being a lot less trouble!


There are two ways to do an II exchange with DVC.

1. Deposit first. (Hardly anyone does this, because the points are used immediately. Sometimes people do it if they are going to lose the points or don't have time left to bank points and can't use them before the end of their use year). When you do deposit first, you give DVC the points immediately and have a period of time to find a match. I think it is two years, but I am not 100% sure on that. Once you give DVC the points, the points have to be used for an II exchange.

2. Match first. No points are taken from your account until a match is actually made. But you have to be willing to take anything that may come up that matches your request. They take the points at the time the match comes up. They don't call you first to see if it's still OK. If you cancel or change your mind after that, you have to use the points within the II system and pay another fee. You don't get the points back into your DVC account to use for a DVC resort or anything else. I don't know how long you would have to find or accept something within II after a cancellation. MS would know, though.

With match first, if you change your mind before a match is made, you get the fee back and there is no harm done, because no points were ever taken from your account.

Hope that helps answer your question.

[tomandrobin]

In most situations, you will be better off renting your points and paying cash, then doing a trade. There are exceptions to this, like staying at top rated resorts and peak exchange periods. If renting your points and paying cash price is about equal, I would do the exchange. Less hassle and you might have to rent to multiple parties, too much work. I also think direct exchanges work very well for some of the nicer resorts.

If you are going to trade or exchange.....go big!

[Daitcher]

I have not entirely decided that I will actually do an exchange, and I have a lot of choices so I am hopeful that a match could be made, should we decide to. My biggest worry was what happens to my points if they can not match. You say I won't lose them, but what happens to them? Does anyone know for sure? It sounds like they stay in the II system and I have to try for another exchange.


I'm looking into that for you. I know what you mean, where do the points go? Do they go into holding, do they have to be used for an exchange, etc.

I have a call into a relaible source and I'll post as soon as I know for sure.



DAVE

[JerryR]

Hello again:
After doing some considerable research to get educated about this process of trading for II, speaking with Member Services and a number of e-mails to them on the topic, I finally decided to go ahead and try to make a trade for a two-bedroom unit at Harbourside Villas at Atlantis in Nassau. The very pleasant and well-informed lady who was serving me at Member Service went over all the details, and commented about how well informed I was on this subject, saying I was actually more knowledgeable then some of the MS people she works with. I asked her why this was, and she said that some are relatively new at the job, and not yet trained in this somewhat complicated matter. She definately did not suffer from this problem!
Anyway, there was no instant match this far out from the anytime in April 2009 dates I am requesting, so I am on a wait list for the first available that comes along. The II units are owned time-share units, and may even be owned for specific dates of use, and requests for exchanges may only be accomodated if one of the owners at the resort you are requesting decides to put their use time on the market for exchange. That is why availability of facilities at any given destination is not automatic and may not be at all easy to obtain.
I have the option of canceling the search anytime and the $95 will be returned to my credit card. However, if the reservation is confirmed, and I then undertake to make any changes, it will require another $95.00 fee.
One of my problems here in Nova Scotia is getting a plane reservation to a Caribbean destination on short notice, so I have to keep an eye on just how long I am prepared to have them keep searching before I think it will be difficult or impossible to get a plane reservation. At that point I am advised to call and cancel the search for 2009, and extend it for 2010 ( if that's what I decide I want to do), since it would be a tough break to get a confirmation a week or two before departure, and then be unable to get there.
However, should that happen, or any other reason to cancel comes up, I can request a change to another date and/or another location, for another $95. My points will not be returned, but I will get a certificate for use within the II system, to be used within a year, as per guidlelines already stated in this thread. So, although you do not lose your points, you are restricted to use them within the II system. This is not necessarily a bad thing, as you have over 500 choices of destination. It happens that the Atlantis resort is one of, if not the most popular request at present.
One other thing members should understand - if you need to stop a search, and wish to change that search to different dates, you should not cancel the search and then restart the process later. You should just make the request for a change in dates without first canceling. That way, you will keep your place in line, instead of starting over at the bottom of the line. By doing it this way, you may well move up the line quite significantly because of all those people who do cancel the search altogether.
The points you use in any exchange will only be assigned to this exchange at the time the match is confirmed. They are not "taken" from your banked or use year until the match is made. And, banked points will be used first.
In looking around extensively at the II possible destinations, I see a number of resorts that are definately "high end", and look as though they would be well worth the exchange; and I see quite a few others that make the value of an exchange seem questionable, at least based on photos and resort web links. I guess people should really do their research well, and not make decisions on a whim when making II exchanges.
JerryR in Nova Scotia

[tomandrobin]

After doing some considerable research to get educated about this process of trading for II, speaking with Member Services and a number of e-mails to them on the topic, I finally decided to go ahead and try to make a trade for a two-bedroom unit at Harbourside Villas at Atlantis in Nassau. The very pleasant and well-informed lady who was serving me at Member Service went over all the details, and commented about how well informed I was on this subject, saying I was actually more knowledgeable then some of the MS people she works with. I asked her why this was, and she said that some are relatively new at the job, and not yet trained in this somewhat complicated matter. She definately did not suffer from this problem!

The fact that you are more knowledgeable about making an exchange with points then most at MS speaks volumes. Harborside in April 2009, in a bedroom will probably not happen. That is peak spring break and Easter falls in the middle of April next year. You will have a much better chance shooting for anytime in May.

Anyway, there was no instant match this far out from the anytime in April 2009 dates I am requesting, so I am on a wait list for the first available that comes along. The II units are owned time-share units, and may even be owned for specific dates of use, and requests for exchanges may only be accomodated if one of the owners at the resort you are requesting decides to put their use time on the market for exchange. That is why availability of facilities at any given destination is not automatic and may not be at all easy to obtain.

Harborside consists of two phases. Phase one units are fixed weeks, Phase two units are float weeks, with some of the "event" weeks fixed. Starwood ownership works similar to DVC, where owners of the resort get first chance to make reservations at the 12 month mark. At the 8 month mark, other Starwood owners get a chance to trade into Harborside. When an owner at Harborside makes a deposit into II, thier unit does not go into the II inventory, it goes into Starwoods inventory. Starwood will deposit a different resort into the II account. This is one of two reasons there are not alot of avaiability of Harborside units in II. The second reson is the MF's are so high, that most owners rather rent thier units then trade out.


I have the option of canceling the search anytime and the $95 will be returned to my credit card. However, if the reservation is confirmed, and I then undertake to make any changes, it will require another $95.00 fee.
One of my problems here in Nova Scotia is getting a plane reservation to a Caribbean destination on short notice, so I have to keep an eye on just how long I am prepared to have them keep searching before I think it will be difficult or impossible to get a plane reservation.

More then likely, if an exchange comes thru it will be at the 6 to 4 month mark, at least for your requested time frame.


At that point I am advised to call and cancel the search for 2009, and extend it for 2010 ( if that's what I decide I want to do), since it would be a tough break to get a confirmation a week or two before departure, and then be unable to get there.
However, should that happen, or any other reason to cancel comes up, I can request a change to another date and/or another location, for another $95. My points will not be returned, but I will get a certificate for use within the II system, to be used within a year, as per guidlelines already stated in this thread. So, although you do not lose your points, you are restricted to use them within the II system. This is not necessarily a bad thing, as you have over 500 choices of destination. It happens that the Atlantis resort is one of, if not the most popular request at present.


You lose your points, as I mentioned before, but what happens most of the time people get scared, panic and take a resort at a different destination. Its a game of chicken and the question is who blinks first.


One other thing members should understand - if you need to stop a search, and wish to change that search to different dates, you should not cancel the search and then restart the process later. You should just make the request for a change in dates without first canceling. That way, you will keep your place in line, instead of starting over at the bottom of the line. By doing it this way, you may well move up the line quite significantly because of all those people who do cancel the search altogether.


This is a good point to remember. You don't want to lose your place in line.


The points you use in any exchange will only be assigned to this exchange at the time the match is confirmed. They are not "taken" from your banked or use year until the match is made. And, banked points will be used first.
In looking around extensively at the II possible destinations, I see a number of resorts that are definately "high end", and look as though they would be well worth the exchange; and I see quite a few others that make the value of an exchange seem questionable, at least based on photos and resort web links. I guess people should really do their research well, and not make decisions on a whim when making II exchanges.


Most exchanges into II are not worth the 270 points. Some are and Harborside is a good example of one of them.

As I stated early, I would expand your search dates into May. I feel that you will have a much better chance of getting your request.

[JerryR]

Hello:
I thank the last respondent for their response. Specifically with regards to April as my choice of dates, I am fully aware that the exchange may not happen for that month, but I decided not to include May in the search since May in Nova Scotia is a busy "Spring" month for us, and not too bad weatherwise, so we do a lot of early gardening as well. If we can't get a spot for April, we'll be happy just to head off to Florida instead. We only selected Nassau because it's a place we've never been. We never get our hopes up to go anywhere in particular. WDW is still our favorite place of all. Also, just to clarify, the lady at member services did not say I more more knowledgeable about II exchanges than "most" who work there, just "many" who work there. I doubt I'm really more knowledgeable than almost any, since I don't really consider myself as being very up on all the ins and outs of this option. But I do know about what I wrote about, and that's mostly due to MS answering my questions over a period of several calls. I feel I get good service there, and good information, but I also feel in some cases I need to double check it just to make sure I understood what I was told.
Regards
JerryR

[tomandrobin]

You might be able to get March 28 to April 4 (sat-sat) or April 25 to May 2.

[tinker_me_happy]

I know Atlantis is a highly sought after resort. Short of joining (and paying a fee) one of the groups previously mentioned, is there another way to find out how likely it would be to get a match? I don't want to join one of the timeshare sites since DVC is it for me. There are no funds for, nor interest in purchasing other timeshares and from the sounds of it those groups are not very DVC friendly. Also I am not looking to exchange a lot. I just want to take my family to Key West sometime in the summer of 2010.

[JimP]

I know Atlantis is a highly sought after resort. Short of joining (and paying a fee) one of the groups previously mentioned, is there another way to find out how likely it would be to get a match? I don't want to join one of the timeshare sites since DVC is it for me. There are no funds for, nor interest in purchasing other timeshares and from the sounds of it those groups are not very DVC friendly. Also I am not looking to exchange a lot. I just want to take my family to Key West sometime in the summer of 2010.

As far as I know, Atlantis is on Paradise Island near Nassau which is in the bahamas... not Key West.

I do not disagree with your lack of interest to buy other timeshares. Trading is not for everyone.

Given your lack of flexible vacation time, I think that exchanging will be difficult in general... except during any vacation weeks that your work assigns during the off-season. Personally if it was me... exchanging would be my last choice.

Because you own DVC which is desireable... I will reinforce two very valid options that you have:

1) Rent out your DVC points for cash... and use that to fund your vacation. You will likely return with cash in your pocket... especially if you do a good job in renting a unit cost effectively (there have been several good suggestions)

2) Doing a direct exchange with someone who will reserve the exact week you want at an acceptable resort... in exchange for you reserving a comparable unit at DVC.

Note that many of the other timeshares owners do NOT have either of these two options because their units have either little economic value... or limited broad desirability (the two are linked). OTOH... you own a property that is highly desired... and there are many people who would love to stay at DVC. That is what drives the two options discussed.

Finally... I would not hesitate to sign up for a timeshare site... despite your comment of "DVC is it for me". DVC is a timeshare... and there are great discussions on sites such as TUG (www.tug2.net) about DVC. It is also one of the best places that you might find a great direct exchange. I also wouldn't worry about the fact that the TUG crowd is anti-DVC. It is irrelevent... and like Tom mentioned... many/most of them love to stay there when they can.

/Jim

[tomandrobin]

I know Atlantis is a highly sought after resort. Short of joining (and paying a fee) one of the groups previously mentioned, is there another way to find out how likely it would be to get a match? I don't want to join one of the timeshare sites since DVC is it for me. There are no funds for, nor interest in purchasing other timeshares and from the sounds of it those groups are not very DVC friendly. Also I am not looking to exchange a lot. I just want to take my family to Key West sometime in the summer of 2010.

I am a Starwood owner. Harborside is a Startwood Resort. I do not own Harborside, but have traded internally thru Starwood for my units. I think your chances of getting a two bedroom in July and August is almost zero. If you are flexible, you might be able to get a room May, early June, Labor day and September.

If you want or need other help on any of this, send me a PM.

[tinker_me_happy]

I know Atlantis is a highly sought after resort. Short of joining (and paying a fee) one of the groups previously mentioned, is there another way to find out how likely it would be to get a match? I don't want to join one of the timeshare sites since DVC is it for me. There are no funds for, nor interest in purchasing other timeshares and from the sounds of it those groups are not very DVC friendly. Also I am not looking to exchange a lot. I just want to take my family to Key West sometime in the summer of 2010.

Okay I missed an important point. Other than Atlantis, which I know is difficult, are there ways to find out about other resorts without joining TUG?

[tomandrobin]

You can look at the Disney II site to see what resorts you would be interested of trying to exchange. Summertime at any resort is hard, but not impossible. If you get your request in early, you will probably get an exchange. Atlantis is the number one requested resort in II, that fact and add in the extremely high maintenance fees makes trades hard to come by.

But your real enemy is the school system. Go to redweek.com its has rentals and exchange oppurtunities listed. It will give you an idea of cost and demand.

[tinker_me_happy]

Thanks!

[tomandrobin]

One of the reasons we go on family vacation mid June is our chance of getting an exchange is still good. After June 20th it gets hard.

If you do get an exchange for the summer of 2010, more then likely it will be 6 months or less to your travel destination.

[tinker_me_happy]

One of the reasons we go on family vacation mid June is our chance of getting an exchange is still good. After June 20th it gets hard.

If you do get an exchange for the summer of 2010, more then likely it will be 6 months or less to your travel destination.

That is GOOD news for me to hear! My youngest son will be graduating HS the first Sunday in June. We could go the second week in June! It sounds like I would have a better chance of a trade then. I am also going to check out the redweek sight as suggested. I would really like to take my family to Key West or somewhere in the Carribean, and I want beach front. We would need a 2 bedroom that sleeps up to 8 people. I know I still have a while to think about how to approach this vacation, but it is in my nature to plan!

[tomandrobin]

That is GOOD news for me to hear! My youngest son will be graduating HS the first Sunday in June. We could go the second week in June! It sounds like I would have a better chance of a trade then. I am also going to check out the redweek sight as suggested. I would really like to take my family to Key West or somewhere in the Carribean, and I want beach front. We would need a 2 bedroom that sleeps up to 8 people. I know I still have a while to think about how to approach this vacation, but it is in my nature to plan!

Since you are looking for summer of 2010, July would be a good time to start your search.

On a side note, when September 2009 rolls around. Also, if you want beachfront, at Atlantis Resort, the best you can get is Marina or Harbor view.

[tinker_me_happy]

I don't want to go to Atlantis (at least not for this trip). I mentioned it before because I know it is very popular and a lot of people try to get in. I really just want a nice place (sometimes it is SO hard to tell by the pictures online because they always show you their best shots!), on the beach and somewhat near stuff to do. My kids will be 18, 20, and 21 for that trip, and it will likely be the last "family" trip we take together.

[tomandrobin]

Have you looked at the Aruba resorts? They are are pretty decent and you would have a good chance to get a trade.

[tomandrobin]

My kids will be 18, 20, and 21 for that trip, and it will likely be the last "family" trip we take together.


If they are like our kids, doubt it. Long as mom and dad are paying, they will be there!

[JimP]

If they are like our kids, doubt it. Long as mom and dad are paying, they will be there!

Totally agree... but we have been encouraging it too :)

[tinker_me_happy]

I can only hope they will still want to go!!

[tomandrobin]

My friend and I bought DVC last August. I am going "home" for the first time in Aug 08 and banked all my 2007 points for that trip. My friend banked all of her 2007 and a used small portion of her 2008 for an Interval exchange for Aug of this year. So far she has not been matched up. The rep she spoke to told her not to worry because a lot of people don't look to exchange out until 60-90 days prior. I am afraid to even ask her about it anymore because she is so nervous! What happens to her points if the match doesn't come thru?? I am especially worried because I want to trade out for 2010. My week will not be flexible as I do not get to pick my vacation at work. {I will most likely also have a week in August that is assigned to me for vacation.} However, unlike my friend, who has only one place she is asking for (Hershey PA) I will be more flexible as to where we go. I am looking at a general areas (Key West, Carribean Islands, or Southern California).

I have been curious about this thread since you first posted. Did your friend get her week at Hershey? Inquiring minds want to know.

[tinker_me_happy]

My Friend never did get her trade. She waited too long to call them and check on it and she only had a two week window which I learned later did not give them much to work with. Had she called even a couple days earlier to check on how things looked they could have booked her else where in the north atlantic area but by the time she called everything was full. She ended up deciding to bank off her points with II since they will be good longer but then missed out on family vacation time this summer. I guess they are going to try for some of the short term exchanges close to home and use the points up that way instead of using them for a full week. I see it as a poor planning thing on her part more than a faulty thing on DVC part. I didn't realize Hershey was SO SMALL!! I guess if you REALLY WANT Hershey you'd be better off trying to trade out directly with someone who has it rather than doing DVC trade. I will still try a trade sometime, but for now I'm still in the wait it out and see phase. I'm actually IN DISNEY right now for our FIRST TRIP HOME with DVC!!! So I have a lot to learn and DO before making any major decisions.

Thanks for Asking!

[tomandrobin]

Thanks for updating this post. Its actually very infomational for others wanting to trade in II.

Your friends request was tough to fullfill. Hershey is a small resort and she wanted to trade at a peak time. That combination rarely woks out.