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RweTHEREyet
02-12-2006, 11:15 PM
It's along story, and you need some background, and I guess to a certain extent this story explains why I am like I am today. :crazy:

Last year (a few days after Christmas in 2004) I went and picked up my Mom, who had been in a rehab center in Destin, Fl. I was bringing her back to my house to recuperate even further and get back on her feet, since she lives by herself.

We got home on New Year's Eve, and two days later we were calling 911 and off to the hospital she goes. Two rehab stays and two hospital stays later, I was finally driving her back to Fl. in April of 2005.

Fast forward to September of 2005, my husband and I drive to Ft. Walton Beach to move mom into assisted living. It was a tough week. She wasn't totally packed and ready to go, and we ended up giving a lot of her stuff away to people from the Honduras and also renting a U-Haul because the Sequoia was fiiled to the brim. The woman had sooooo much stuff. We worked like dogs :luto: :luto: but did get her moved and finally headed back home 2 days later than planned.

We get back home and hubby starts having trouble sleeping, serious trouble sleeping.
So he FINALLY goes to the Dr. and they say he needs a sleep apnea test. Two days later he feels much worse, goes to another Dr. and they want him to see a cardiologist, which he does the next day. He calls me and tells me they have learned one of the chambers in his heart is only working at 20% capacity. They do a catheterization and determine no blockages to clear, no stents to put in. It is all because of undiagnosed high blood pressure. Undiagnosed because you can't get diagnosed if you don't go to the Dr. in 10 years. :tsktsk: :tsktsk: :tsktsk: So this can only be treated by change of diet, weight loss, and medication, lot's of medication.

So our lives change dramatically. No moe burgers, bacon, french fries, etc. Lots of salads, raisin bran and low-fat skimmed milk. Well, you get the picture. This is big doins for two people who have never paid any attention to what they were eating, and I am the bread and butter queen, "was" is now the right word.

The medication makes hubby almost unable to function. He feels like a slug. He sits down, he falls asleep. He can't even carry the trash out, so I take on All the household responsibilities, in addition to working.

So, first 1/3 of the year, I look after Mom, driving to rehab and/or hospital on a daily basis. Then last 1/3 of the year I look after hubby. Not looking for sympathy, just setting the stage for why I almost got arrested.

In Nov. Mom is hospitalized again and ends up having a pacemaker put in, which did her sooooo much good and she started to finally feel better. So, we start thinking about Christmas and how are we all going to be together. I can't leave hubby and I don't think Mom can fly. She ends up deciding we will all be together, so she flies up here on Dec 19.

We had a delightful Christmas and Mom is scheduled to fly back home on Jan. 7. We had a very quiet New Year's planned, staying a home and taking it easy. Mom went on to bed and we were watching Dick Clark and all of a sudden we hear a big thud and a cry of pain. Mom came back down the stairs and missed the botton two and landed on the hardwood floor. Her knee instantly swells, but she is able to walk. We immediately call my pharmacist SIL and she says to wrap it in an ace bandage, put ice on it and if she can walk, it isn't broken. Things go along find until 3 nights later. As Mom is walking upstairs, she starts having severe pain in the knee area. We get tylenol in her and she heads to bed.

Next morming it looks like someone had inserted a navel orange under the skin right below Momma's knee. I call 911 and off we go to the hospital again. We learn that because she is on coumadin (blood thinner) that it caused that huge hematoma. So after a hospital stay and a difficult rehab stay, Mom was discharged this past Thursday. I got her flight booked to go home today.

We get to the airport, and I get a pass to escort her to her gate. We have Mom in a wheelchair, I have her walker and carry on bag. I can't push both the wheelchair and the walker, so they call for someone to come assist us. We go up the elevator and come out right by a security checkpoint. While they are removing Mom's shoes and jacket to go thru security, a big group with strollers and several little ones merge in front of us, but our tubs with our stuff are already going thru the scanners. At this point I lose site of our "stuff" meaning pocket books and jackets and stuff. I am not a happy camper at all. The person pushing Mom in the wheelchair sends her thru an area on the other side of the thing you walk thru (because of the pacemaker). I go thru the metal detector and run over to get our "stuff" and then walk back over to where Mom is sitting in the wheelchair. The security person starts checking her by patting down her shoulders and arms and in the process pats particularly hard in the area where the pacemaker was installed. Mom starts to cry. I turn around to put on my jacket and make sure I have everything an then I hear Mom cry out again, and the security person has her hand under Mom's foot and is raising the leg with the hematoma. I start yellng no, no, no, and the idiot just looks at me while she is stil holding the leg up. Since she doesn't let go, I raise up both my arms and give her a good shove backwards :Pokepoke: :Pokepoke: I mean what would you do if someone was doing that to your Mom. I could just see us leaving the airport in an ambulance and Mom being here another 2 months. :worried:

She turns and runs away and yells for a manager. The guy comes in and she starts screaming that I pushed her. I explained what happened. I told the girl I was sorry I pushed her but that she was wrong to not find out about any limitations of an 86 year-old woman before she starts man-handling her. Mgr. asks if she is o.k. with that and she shakes her head yes and he asks her to finish checking my Mom and tells me he will talk to the girl about how she handled it later.

We finally get on our way and I realize that the carry on bag with all of Mom's medicine is no where to be found. I really freak out at that point and I find out that they have taken the bag because it was "abandoned." We get the bag and head off to the gate, including our original escort. When we get there, the plane is already boarding.

The escort pushed us up to the front of the line and they take Mom's boarding pass. They ask if they can check her rollater (walker) and they put a tag on it and send it to be checked. The escort then starts pushcing Mom in the wheelchair down the hall to the plane and motions for me to follow with the bag full of medicine. We get to the plane and they help Momma on and I followed along with the bag. Our escort leaves with the wheelchair. They get Momma to her seat and hand her her pocketbook. I lift the blue bag into the overhead and tell the Flight Attendant that she will need assistance with that in Atlanta. She looks at me a little confused and I say, I am not flying, she is going by herself. at this point the Flight Attendant;s eyes go :bugeyed: , but she does't say anything. I hug Momma goodbye and wish her a safe flight and turn and leave. I left the airport with no further incident.

End of story, not quite.

I got a call from Momma when she landed in Atlanta and she tells me that after I left two policemen came on the plane and gave her the third degree. They wanted her birthdate, my name, address and birthdate, etc. They asked her to repeat the story. She never saw me shove the lady, because she was too busy crying, so she couldn't attest to that.

So now, hubby and I are sitting here looking out the window waiting for the police to show up.

Hubby is laughing that he drove the get away car. I am sitting here wondering, just what could they do to me, even moreso, what did I do wrong? Was it the shove, walking onto the plane, I dunno.

If I suddently disappear from these Boards, you might start baking cakes with files in them. I will keep you posted if there any further developments.

Deep-Thots
02-12-2006, 11:34 PM
Wow, that is quite a story!!

There have been so many stories published regarding the inefficiency and basic idiocy of people hired by the TSA -- and it hasn't made us one iota safer!

I'm sure that you and your 86 year-old mother definitely look like terrorist-types -- and I'm sure that the screener and her manager couldn't possibly have more important things to do than file police reports about a woman trying to prevent her injured 86 year-old mother from being seriously re-injured. CUT ME A BREAK!!!

bavaria
02-13-2006, 12:09 AM
Oh my!!! First, a very big :grouphug: to you for having to be the strong one for so long while dealing with all of those health issues in your family. You may not realize the stress it is placing on you.....

Second, I hope that your mother is ok and has a safe trip back and feels better.

Third, you did nothing wrong! you asked the agent to stop, she should have asked for permission from your mother as well as you first, and she obviously was not very observant.

I myself have spoken sharply to TSA agents when they did not respect my explanation that I couldn't lift my arm due to the sling and cast keeping my shoulder in place. If they made a 35 yo woman cry in pain, I can only imagine how your poor mother felt.

On the flip side, the TSA is usually respectful on my many trips. I am often selected for secondary screening due to my travel pattersn, and I always explain that I cannot lift one arm to shoulder level. Most agents are respectful of my limitations.

Best thoughts to all of you, and I promise to start baking if you suddenly disappear from our little online community!!! ;)

idratherbeinwdw
02-13-2006, 12:17 AM
Kim basically said exactly what I was thinking--I bet elderly women in wheelchairs are a huge concern in our fight against terrorism! I am surprised they didn't do a body cavity search. :jawdroppi :(

So sorry you had to go through this, and sorry that idiot hurt your dear Mom.

PoohsPal
02-13-2006, 01:36 AM
OMG!!! How awful for you. I cannot even comprehend. :hug: PLease let me know if I need to start baking. I'm not a very good cook, but I think the file would make up for it. ;) Hope things start looking up for you! You deserve a huge pat on teh back ofr taking care of your loved ones and making life changes to keep dh healthy. WHat do you get? Aressted? :sad:

Colorado Belle
02-13-2006, 02:52 AM
I am so sorry for this series of misfortunes. I can understand why you gave her a little push. I 'm sorry to say that I'm almost surprised that they didn't arrest you...seems they do it for most anything these days. I make it a point to be disgustingly polite and docile with these people, yet I almost got into it with one who was harassing someone I didn't even know....she had an infant.

I have heard a rumor that they are letting up on the vigilante tactics and now doing a scan of your name to see if you fits a profile...and frankly, I am tired of people saying it is wrong to profile when it comes to airport security.

Hope your mom had help getting off the plane and that she is safely recovering from the stairs accident.

Give yourself a big hug...you deserve one!

RweTHEREyet
02-13-2006, 03:04 AM
Mom called just a few minutes ago and she back at her apartment in assisted living and safe and sound. :sunny: :sunny: :sunny:

She said that the plane that took her from Atl. to Ft. Walton Beach (she had to change planes in ATL, left here on a big plane) was one of those that you have to leave the terminal and walk outside to climb the stairs to get on the plan, no jetway.

O.K., so let's back up to when Mom first went in the hospital and I found out that I needed to re-book her flight. I called Delta and a really nice lady said that we could re-book the flight when she was ready to go home and there would be NO fee and NO increase in the fare. This was extremely generous and more than I could have hoped for. She told me that everything would be taken care of in her record.

When I found out Mom was going to be sprung from re-hab, I immediatley called Delta. When I was transferred to re-ticketing, I explained what I needed and told them what flight I wanted to put Mom on--one without a 3-hour or more layover. The lady told me that Delta would not waive the fee or waive the fare increase. She actually gave me a lot of atitude. I asked her to review the notes in the file and she would find all the information she needed, including the fact that bulk-head seats would be assigned at the time of booking due to her leg injury and that assistance from gate to gate was necessary. She wasn't too happy to be proven wrong. Isn't it then interesting that the flights I had selected were suddenly no longer available??? I had been told just five minutes earlier that they were. This Delta person then recommended different flights that I accepted because of good departure time and a minimal layover time.

Now, I would think that the woman booking the flights for me would have known what type of plane Mom would be required to get on with a bad leg and being 86 years old. Could be that this really miserable day has gotten to me and i am being unduly hard, but I am kind of thinking this lady sort of did this on purpose. :thumbsway

I have to accept responsibility on this, too, but I honestly did not know that those little planes were used in the markets I fly in any more. I have flown to Mom's several times in the last couple of years, and I never saw those little ones at her airport. Maybe I just wasn't very observant.

So, I am mad at myself for not knowing and/or checking and also feeling that the Delta lady got the best of me.

I am done griping for the day. It was a very long/difficult day for Mom, but she is home and can set the thermostat to whatever temperature makes her comfortable. :cheerlead She doesn't have any more stairs to fall down :cheerlead and I haven't been arrested for anything yet :birhdaypa

So , I am going to go and watch Grey's Anatomy and call it a night.

It sure has been helpful to get all this off my chest, and I appreciate the re-inforcement that I have received from you guys. I am thankful to be able to come here and unload all this baggage. Thanks for listening. Tomorrow this might all be funny. :laughing: :laughing:

bavaria
02-13-2006, 03:33 AM
Well, I would also add that if they didn't arrest you on site, I doubt that they would arrest you now (but I really don't know that for sure). Do airport police have any power off the airport? And would your local police hear the story and suggest that maybe TSA went a little heavy handed on you? I have seen police arrest people at the airport for violent behaviour - at Dulles a few months ago a woman and a man got into a fist fight in line over perceived queue jumping. But that was some serious violence and they weren't the only ones that day who were escorted away with sparkly bracelets.

But PLEASE come back tomorrow and tell us where you are..... if you don't we will all REALLY be worried about you!

And don't kick yourself about your mother's flight - she made it home safe and sound, through the nasty Atlanta airport. Sounds like she did get some help from the ground crew if she made it to her flight and on board the plane.

Rash
02-13-2006, 03:46 AM
I officially apologize for any moaning and whining I have done in the past regarding relatively minor life difficulties. RweTHEREyet, you are one amazing person to deal with everything you have had to with such humor and dignity. I truly hope that in the future your concern, devotion, and kindness for your loved ones is rewarded with peace and happiness.

jiggerj
02-13-2006, 12:29 PM
Oh my gosh RweTHEREyet what a horrible experience for you and your mom! I certainly understand why you would give her a little push too! :burningma

Glad to hear your Mom is back safe and sound- You take care too ok? :hug:

greenban
02-13-2006, 01:03 PM
OMG!

I'm so sorry this happened to you and Mom. As a professional, paranoid worrier, I would advise your best defense is a strong offense.

I would file a formal complaint with the TSA, about how, despite, your shouting several warnings, this 'agent'was not only hurting your Mother but putting her life in danger (Compartment syndrome from a new expanding hematoma, Pulmonary embolism from clot fracture, etc.) Since this woman continued to injure your Mother, despite verbal pleas for her to stop, you needed immediate action to protect your Mother. Since the TSA agent clearly does not understand nor respond to English, you were forced to use Physical contact to get your message across in a timely manner.

Note that you immediately spoke with a manager, who indicated retraining of the agent would occur.

You are dealing with the byzantine, mass of the Federal Government, with a potential charge of assault against a Federal Agent in the performance of her duty. Just because you weren't arrested immediately, doesn't mean this is over. They sent local Police to question your Mom.

So, if this were me, I'd file this formal complaint now, so that you can each 'dismiss' the charges against each other, and nothing worse happens. I'd also run this by my lawyer!

Good luck, and I would have done the exact same thing! (Except probably tackling the agent, with my Extra Pooh-sized Bulk!'

-Tony

PoohsPal
02-13-2006, 02:06 PM
Waiting for check in to see if it's time to start baking or not. ;)

Hoping today is a MUCH better day for you! :dust:

Stimpy
02-13-2006, 02:20 PM
Well, you definately beat my crazy weekend LOL

Seriously, I'm glad to hear your mom got "home" ok and am sorry you had to experience this whole ordeal. :goodvibes I hope someday you can look back on all this and laugh. (I noticed you mentioned your DH is already!)

Just in case....do you prefer vanilla or chocolate cake? :hug:

RweTHEREyet
02-13-2006, 02:21 PM
No cakes needed yet. I am still walking among the free, but hubby is trying to decide if I would look better in black and white stripes or an orange jumpsuit

Hubby says I should file a report, too. I am not sure what I plan on doing as this has stressed me out more than I thought it would.


I am also wondering if I am now on "the list" where I would be detained and given extra screenings any time I fly. :idontgeti We are going to WDW in May and I will be going thru the same security area and flying on Delta, like Mom did.

I drive past the airport every day on my way to and from work and I am just wondering if I should stop on my way home today and talk to someone, but I am not sure who I would even start with.

jnrrt
02-13-2006, 02:45 PM
Ug, what a mess! I'm so sorry. I'm always surprised at how hard they seem to make it. We've had some nice helpful people, but there are some definite doozies too. Almost as if they think they need to intimidate everyone to "do their job".

I'm sorry your mom had to go through that, and you too! I'm not surprised that you're stresssed out. Try to take a little time for yourself, and I would file a report too.

ripleysmom
02-13-2006, 03:09 PM
I'm glad your mom made it there safely. Sorry that she (and you) had to go through so much.

lllovell
02-13-2006, 04:42 PM
I don't think I would advise going back onto the airport property to file if possible. Something about putting yourself back in their area of jurisdiction without knowing if they are looking for you seems like it would be inviting trouble. However, I WOULD file.

Also, leave youself a lot of extra time when you fly next. You might well be on some lovely list at this point. My thoughts on that are basically "search me you idiots...and let the real terrorist walk right by...smart!" but it won't harm you unless you do something to allow them to detain you.

Oh, and call Delta. They are getting their butts kicked right now and bad customer service like you received needs to be pointed out. I think someone would want to know (hopefully :bugeyed: unfortunately not always though huh?)

Glad your mother is doing better!!! and hope hubby is too!

Laura

bavaria
02-13-2006, 04:51 PM
If you do file a claim, I found this:

Step 3. Additional screening

Additional screening occurs when an individual sets off the alarm on the metal detector, or if he or she is selected for the additional screening. This screening includes a hand-wand inspection in conjunction with a pat-down inspection that includes the torso.

If you must go through additional screening, the screener will direct you from the metal detector to a screening station where he or she will brief you on the next steps.

At this time, you should let the screener know of any personal needs you may have due to a religious or cultural consideration, disability, or other medical concern.
Except in extraordinary circumstances, a screener of your gender will conduct your additional screening. You may request that your search be conducted in private.

It came from the TSA site http://www.tsa.gov/public/interapp/editorial/editorial_1049.xml I have been able to point out my concerns easily to 90% of the screeners who do extra screening (I do recall one TSA agent in FLL who kept trying to 'force' my arm higher than it will go, even when I kept telling her that it doesn't go any higher)

The above paragraphs are in regards to EXTRA screening, but I would think that the same courtesy applies for those passengers in a wheelchair. I wonder if the screener was being ignorant and assumed that your mother could not speak for herself?

And I agree with the advice to stay away from the airport this week; file a claim in writing, or at least consider writing to voice your concern about how your mother was treated. I chat with TSA a lot and believe me, they do actually care about their reputation and most do want to do a good job.

But I'm glad that you're still with us! (oh, and tell your husband that orange is still very 'in' this year.....:ROTFL: )

AFMom
02-13-2006, 06:16 PM
File!!!! Just CYA - you never know what dolt might be handling your file at this point. Funny - I'm ALWAYS selected for the special screening - and I never set off the alarm. They completely unpack my bags, scan me with the handheld, ask me questions. I've flown only a few times in the last few years - we drive everywhere - but the last 4 out of 4 I got this VIP treatment... :magnify: Lucky me.
Yeah - I bet your mom was looking mighty threatening. I know they aren't supposed to only search the "profiled" people - but give me a break!:dunce:

greenban
02-13-2006, 07:34 PM
File!!!! Just CYA - you never know what dolt might be handling your file at this point. Funny - I'm ALWAYS selected for the special screening - and I never set off the alarm. They completely unpack my bags, scan me with the handheld, ask me questions. I've flown only a few times in the last few years - we drive everywhere - but the last 4 out of 4 I got this VIP treatment... :magnify: Lucky me.
Yeah - I bet your mom was looking mighty threatening. I know they aren't supposed to only search the "profiled" people - but give me a break!:dunce:

It's your Burka!

Your lucky I'm not a TSA agent, I'd report you for frog smuggling!

You don't even wanna know what kinda search frog smugglers get!:bugeyed:

-Tony

greenban
02-13-2006, 07:40 PM
It's your Burka!

Your lucky I'm not a TSA agent, I'd report you for frog smuggling!

You don't even wanna know what kinda search frog smugglers get!:bugeyed:

-Tony

"Ladies and Gentlemen, This is your Captain from the flight deck, just want to let you all know, we have a TSA identified security risk on this flight with us today. Please take the time to look at your 'neighboor' to the left and to the right.

Remember one of them is a TSA identified security risk. Thanks to President Bush, I'm armed with a Kimber Gold Sport Custom .45, and our co-pilot has his Colt .44 Magnum 4 inch revolver. However, we would certainly appreciate any help you can provide to our flight crew if this 'RWTY!' makes herself known. We will be at MCO in about 3 hours and 45........"

OMG I quoted myself! That's it, I'm flagged, see ya'll tomorrow!

RweTHEREyet
02-13-2006, 09:05 PM
I'm getting ready to head for home in a little bit, and my route takes me right past the airport, I literally drive right past the end of one of the runways. I think I better put on my sunglasses just in case security is looking for me. :scary:

My friend, Deb, thinks she and I should take a day trip to WDW just so she can see what happens to me when I go thru Security and try to fly Delta. :ROTFL: some friend, huh.........

cobbler
02-14-2006, 02:18 PM
Good gracious how awful! UGH. Makes no sense to me. People that are really suspicious they let go but want to go through a 70000 point check for the elderly.

Stupid airports.

athenna
02-14-2006, 02:52 PM
OMG, Rwe. I am so sorry to hear all that they put you and your mom through. Unbelieveable. I believe in making our airports safer, but good grief.
Sending hugs to you and major hugs to your mom!:hug: