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Rumblebuffin
04-15-2008, 09:35 PM
In another thread I shared my consternation with unsupervised children at quiet pools.

http://www.mouseowners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14453

My question is this: Why don't CM's at check in, as well as those of you who rent points, remind patrons of quiet pool rules? I know it doesn't happen at check-in, and maybe some of you points-renters do remind guests of the necessity for decorum while at WDW. But for those of us who are not renting our points, it seems that the value of our investment is being jeopardized by people sending kids - unsupervised - to quiet pools.

As I said in the afore-mentioned thread: next time I see unsupervised youngsters at a quiet pool for any length of time, I am calling security. DW and I have invested nearly $20K in DVC, and unsupervised kids at quiet pools devalue that investment.

:mad:

I'mNoPrince
04-15-2008, 09:58 PM
What are the Quiet pool rules .

Not that we use them but for a cooling off dip if it's easier to get to them the main pools .

But my Understanding is the Word Quiet Pool is not what they should be called it's more like just not the Main Pools.

Now DD is 14 and have common sense in getting out of the Pool if some one is trying to clean it and so forth ( If I remember post correctly) .

Rumblebuffin
04-15-2008, 10:06 PM
Quiet pool rules (at leat at SSR) are posted by the jacuzzi and they specifically state that children under the age of 14 are to be supervised by adults.

:judge:

I'mNoPrince
04-15-2008, 10:12 PM
Quiet pool rules (at leat at SSR) are posted by the jacuzzi and they specifically state that children under the age of 14 are to be supervised by adults.

:judge:

Ok I saw them but thought that was for the safety of the Jacuzzi use . I think maybe they should be pointed out at Check-in or posted at the different pools. I also think no Kid should ever be at a Pool without a responsable adult EVER

I'll check my Maps of the other resorts to see if they have anything on them.

Ok this is what it states on the Info packet they give you at Check-in

Front page Saratoga TipSheet

What are the Pool hours?

Our feature and leisure pools are open from 10 a.m. tp 10 p.m. There are lifeguards on duty at HighRockSpringPool during slide operating hours. Slide operating hours vary from season to season,and inclement weather.

The on the back Recreation page it has.

POOLS

High Rock Spring Pool is located near the Carriagehouse with lifeguards on duty during pool hours.There are lockers and a changing area,slide,interactive child's play area,and two hot tubs.

A pool and hot tub are located near the Paddocks and Congress Park. Lifeguards are not on Duty. Walt Disney World resort approved floation devices are provided but must be obtained at the Community hall during normal operating hours.Guest must have a resort ID to recieve a life jacket.

For your Safety and enjoyment,diaper-age children are required to wear swim diapers oe rubber pants while using any pool at the Walt Disney World Resort. Swim Diapers are available in our merchandise location for your convenience. In consideration to others ,please do not leave personal items,including pool towels, to reserve pool chairs.

This would be a great place for them to put additional rules if need be. I also Like how they call the Leisure pools and not Quiet Pools.When did that happen or were they always called tha.

AFMom
04-16-2008, 01:53 AM
M concern would be someone getting hurt or drowning..... Even an adult, if on thier own, can fall, hit their head and drown in a pool.
I think I've seen regulations that say 12 and under have to have adult supervision at OKW, but can't remember where I saw it. Wonder if they changed the age to 14.........
But yeah - "Quiet Pool" is not the best description: I can't think of a single kid under the age of 10 that can jump into a pool without yelling rather loudly whether they are supervised or not. And really - wouldn't expect kids to be "quiet" at a pool until after dark. I'd certainly rather them yell and splash at the pool than bounce off the walls in the hotel room next to mine until midnight!
But - inappropriate behavior by unsupervised adolescents is something I don't want to see anywhere at Disney whether in the pools or out.

WILDCAT MICKEY
04-16-2008, 01:56 AM
We had similar problems last May at the Quiet Pools and the Main pool at SSR. At the main pool I even mentioned it to the Life Guards which could have cared less about small unattended children in the hot tub. At the Quiet Pool, kids were eating Dorito chips, alnog with other food while sitting in the hot tub and then washing the orangeoff their hands in the hot tub. I sent my concerns to Customer Service without any response. :idontgeti

CRSNDSNY
04-16-2008, 10:39 AM
We had similar problems last May at the Quiet Pools and the Main pool at SSR. At the main pool I even mentioned it to the Life Guards which could have cared less about small unattended children in the hot tub. At the Quiet Pool, kids were eating Dorito chips, alnog with other food while sitting in the hot tub and then washing the orangeoff their hands in the hot tub. I sent my concerns to Customer Service without any response. :idontgeti

UGH! I'm glad you at least reported it. I would have, too.

I will never understand why some people think they are above the rules. And why would you allow your children to play at a pool unsupervised??!! It's just carelessness and laziness, IMO.

I believe there should be some CM watching the area during swimming hours to ensure that the rules are being followed and that there are no problems.

Back in 2004 DH and I stayed at at the BC (our first trip as DVC members) and we took a couple of beers out to the quiet pool. We got scolded because they were glass containers :bagovermy...we had not realized that this was against pool rules.

So there was a lifeguard there then. Did they just stop having them there over the last few years?

I took my nephews in August 2006 to the BC and we visited the BC (not villa) quiet pool nightly. There was NEVER a lifeguard on duty.

glypnirsgirl
04-16-2008, 11:58 AM
I don't think that there is ever a lifeguard on duty at the quiet pools - at least I have never seen one at OKW.

Elaine

jbrowna
04-16-2008, 02:21 PM
Maybe I'm different, but it's never the kids at the pools that bother me. Let 'em run around and make noise and burn off energy! :jumpingbe

What bothers me more are the adults who drink and smoke at the hot tubs. :yuck:

amycthir
04-16-2008, 02:54 PM
I would never let my children go to the pool on their own (9 & 15), I would be worried the whole time.
We went to the quiet pool after Easter dinner at BCV about 10:30 2 years ago. There was 2 or 3 couples at the far end of the pool so we got in the other end using the ladder. My son who was 7 at that time was floating around with his lifejacket on when the obviously drunk men started making comments to him. I told my son to stay close to us and to just ignore them but the women in the group must have realized who badly the men were behaving and made them leave. It was probably the worst I have ever seen anyone behave at Disney and I have seen quiet a few things (especially at Pleasure Island). I know it does not sound that bad, but they were extremely rude and ignorant when we were all being "quiet" because we were tired and just wanted to relax.
My point the should state for everyone there to be quiet.

nono
04-16-2008, 04:02 PM
What bothers me more are the adults who drink and smoke at the hot tubs. :yuck:

Esp. if they don't share! :slyasafox

Carol
04-16-2008, 04:23 PM
I think it is unrealistic to expect people (esp children) to be quiet in a pool area, unless it is after 10 pm when the pools are closed.

I believe Disney stopped referring to pools as "quiet" because some guests took the description literally. They complained when other people chose not to swim in the crowded Feature pool and made noise in the "quiet" pools. Disney now refers to those pools as "lesiure" pools. The only real differences between leisure and Feature / Main pools is that the leisure pools do not have slides or lifeguards.

That said, I too wish parents would supervise their children (everywhere, not just at the pools).

Stimpy
04-16-2008, 04:26 PM
In another thread I shared my consternation with unsupervised children at quiet pools.

http://www.mouseowners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14453

My question is this: Why don't CM's at check in, as well as those of you who rent points, remind patrons of quiet pool rules? I know it doesn't happen at check-in, and maybe some of you points-renters do remind guests of the necessity for decorum while at WDW. But for those of us who are not renting our points, it seems that the value of our investment is being jeopardized by people sending kids - unsupervised - to quiet pools.
As I said in the afore-mentioned thread: next time I see unsupervised youngsters at a quiet pool for any length of time, I am calling security. DW and I have invested nearly $20K in DVC, and unsupervised kids at quiet pools devalue that investment.

:mad:

I don't disagree with you about unsupervised kids. Just wondering why you assume it is people who rented points? There are some bad renters, but there are also bad owners too. I seem to run into alot of owners with the attitude that they are better than "regular" Disney guests and can do whatever they want because they pay alot of money to be DVC members. They don't need to follow the rules. That is not meant towards you personally since it seems you do feel the rules should be followed by everyone....and I agree.

I've been an owner for several years now, we don't rent out our points and I'm the mean mommy who does not allow my kids to yell & scream at any pool, especially the "quiet" pools. I also would be bothered at seeing unsupervised kids there. But I don't think it's fair to blame only people who rent points from owners.

Besides, if you want to see or hear real obnoxious behavior from both kids & adults at the "quiet" pools go to Pop after midnight :innocent: I like to believe it doesn't happen every night, I was just unlucky both trips and was ready to kill people :hammer:

Kynna
04-16-2008, 04:56 PM
There is a line between a kid being a kid and a people being disrespectful of other guests.

My DD has one of those unfortunate voices that sounds like she has a megaphone built into her larynx. We do everything we can to get her to Keep It Down but sometimes we need to just give the kid a break. I would'nt ever get upset at kids if they are loud because they are playing at the pool. The reason the pool is so exciting is because they most likely spent the day "being good" at the parks.

Beyond the safety issues:jawdroppi I would expect that parents be with their children to make sure they behave properly.

Adults on the other hand should know better! They are in Disney NOT Vegas! I really don't think it has anything to do with the fact that they are renters or owners. Their Mama just didn't raise them right!!!!! It'll all come back to bite them in the booty some day.

Rumblebuffin
04-16-2008, 11:18 PM
I don't disagree with you about unsupervised kids. Just wondering why you assume it is people who rented points? There are some bad renters, but there are also bad owners too. I seem to run into alot of owners with the attitude that they are better than "regular" Disney guests and can do whatever they want because they pay alot of money to be DVC members. They don't need to follow the rules. That is not meant towards you personally since it seems you do feel the rules should be followed by everyone....and I agree.

I've been an owner for several years now, we don't rent out our points and I'm the mean mommy who does not allow my kids to yell & scream at any pool, especially the "quiet" pools. I also would be bothered at seeing unsupervised kids there. But I don't think it's fair to blame only people who rent points from owners.

Besides, if you want to see or hear real obnoxious behavior from both kids & adults at the "quiet" pools go to Pop after midnight :innocent: I like to believe it doesn't happen every night, I was just unlucky both trips and was ready to kill people :hammer:

:flowerfor

I didn't mean to suggest that it's only point renters who send unsupervised kids to the quiet or "leisure" pools. That's why I suggested that CM's remind or hand out reminders of the rules at leisure pools at check-in.

I love hearing kids having great fun in the pools. They are not the focus of my concern. Unsupervised kids are, whether their parents are owners or renters. (By the way, the rude and threatening adult behaviors referred to in numerous posts on this thread ought not be tolerated either.)

The more a visit to our "Homes" becomes like a Holidome visit, the less valuable is the investment we all have made in quality family vacations.

bigbahamadada
04-17-2008, 03:29 AM
If a parent is willing to send their young child to a pool unaccompanied, or allow them to run around without regard to others in any circumstance, I find it hard to believe a flyer or kind word at check-in is going to make such a person see the light.

disneycop
04-17-2008, 04:44 AM
We generally try to hit the pools later in the evening, after a hard day of playing in the parks, and on most occasions we haven’t encountered any problems.
Like most of you, I have witnessed small children running wildly, unsupervised and uncontrolled at the pools and have even had our kids say “look at what those guys are doing…we’re not going over there”. We tend to always make the best of it as long as there is not a safety issue.
The Lifeguards are there to do just that, guard life and safety and I have no problem mentioning a problem to them. That’s what they’re paid for.
We have learned that just because parents decide to take their children to WDW for a wonderful vacation, that doesn’t qualify them to be good parents. Many families tend to show their “true colors” when overwhelmed by the offer of so much activity. These are the ones who obviously don’t spend time with their kids and when compelled to interact with them beyond the normal daily routine, they tend to break down.
I truly believe in parent time and think that couples with children should take advantage of Disney’s in-room care as to not over extend their patience.

I do recall a late evening at the “quiet” pool at OKW at the end of Turtle Pond Rd. where we found two children, one being very small, (maybe 4 yoa) running around and swimming in the pool while the totally inattentive parents relaxed in the hot tub. The issue was that there is not a clear line of sight due to shrubbery that secludes the tub.
We made a point to talk with and monitor the kids, along with ours, while we swam.
After quite some time, the girls’ mother decided to join her kids in the pool.

I do enjoy a nice cigar or a drink (in a non-breakable container) at night out by the pool, but I do try to respect others. If there are any people around, I Will Not Smoke!

We have only encountered an inappropriate PDA at the hot tub near the main pool at Coronado Springs where alcohol and lack of judgment on the part of a couple of conference attendees, made several adults in our party decide to move on.

We have enjoyed the member pool at WLV due to its limited activity and only ventured to the main pool once.

CRSNDSNY
04-17-2008, 11:29 AM
I don't think that there is ever a lifeguard on duty at the quiet pools - at least I have never seen one at OKW.

Elaine
There definitely was one in May 2004. Perhaps they've since done away with them.

Rumblebuffin
04-17-2008, 01:29 PM
If a parent is willing to send their young child to a pool unaccompanied, or allow them to run around without regard to others in any circumstance, I find it hard to believe a flyer or kind word at check-in is going to make such a person see the light.


I do agree. Notification to patrons ought to be provided, then security called if unsupervised kids are at the "leisure pools", as they are now called.

Over the last four years this situation has gotten worse and worse, at least in our experience. Owners, renters and Disney ought not let he problem get out of hand.

dianeschlicht
04-24-2008, 03:09 PM
I would never let my children go to the pool on their own (9 & 15), I would be worried the whole time.
We went to the quiet pool after Easter dinner at BCV about 10:30 2 years ago. There was 2 or 3 couples at the far end of the pool so we got in the other end using the ladder. My son who was 7 at that time was floating around with his lifejacket on when the obviously drunk men started making comments to him. I told my son to stay close to us and to just ignore them but the women in the group must have realized who badly the men were behaving and made them leave. It was probably the worst I have ever seen anyone behave at Disney and I have seen quiet a few things (especially at Pleasure Island). I know it does not sound that bad, but they were extremely rude and ignorant when we were all being "quiet" because we were tired and just wanted to relax.
My point the should state for everyone there to be quiet.

We had a similar experience at OKW last year. My DDIL and I actually got out of the hot tub and took the boys out of the pool and went back to the room, because I was about to tell the jerks where to go, and DDIL was scared. That kind of behaviour on an airplane would get you arrested upon landing, so why should it be accepted at a Disney World pool?

Buena_Vista_Mom
09-29-2008, 01:03 AM
We always use the leisure pools during our stay. My children are intimidated by the crowds at the main pools and get really nervous. They prefer the relaxation of the leisure pools. I've never called them or referred to them as quiet pools. I always supervise my children and make sure that they do not splash or swim too close to other people, but I did hear remarks by a person who said children aren't supposed to be in the leisure pool at all. I politely told the man that it was a leisure pool, not an "adult only" pool and my children had every right to be there. He mumbled something as I swam off. I've always found it the adults that are in need of supervision at these leisure pools, not the children.

jessykah77
09-29-2008, 01:39 AM
We have a special needs child and make use of the leisure pools. She likes to float and relax, the activity at the main pool is just too overwhelming for her. She is always well supervised. No negative experiences so far and hope that remains the case.
-crosses fingers-

Noreendisfourdisfour
09-29-2008, 02:27 AM
esp. If they don't share! :slyasafox

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Rumblebuffin
09-29-2008, 11:13 AM
We always use the leisure pools during our stay. My children are intimidated by the crowds at the main pools and get really nervous. They prefer the relaxation of the leisure pools. I've never called them or referred to them as quiet pools. I always supervise my children and make sure that they do not splash or swim too close to other people, but I did hear remarks by a person who said children aren't supposed to be in the leisure pool at all. I politely told the man that it was a leisure pool, not an "adult only" pool and my children had every right to be there. He mumbled something as I swam off. I've always found it the adults that are in need of supervision at these leisure pools, not the children.

Supervised kids are not the problem IMHO. This is a family place after all.

Our problem was unsupervised preteens.

:help:

NorweJenNY
10-05-2008, 09:22 PM
I'll just be glad for my experience... two different evenings on our June trip, just after dinner time, we had the SSR Paddock pool all to ourselves! Perfect for my two children who are hesitant around pools... the last thing they'd want is a busy pool with children splashing and shouting all around them!