greenban poll: RASH of the week!

[greenban]

Please Note:

Unless over-ruled by the :drillserg webmistress :tsktsk: , I will follow this poll's outcome. So my dear MOers, you actually will get to :Pokepoke: control :Pokepoke: some of my :hammer:madness!

Sparked by ErinC's reasonable response :blech: to my RASH photos, and based on the Moderator's QOTW (Question of the week).......

How about I post a :headache: RASH OF THE WEEK poll/thread? :headache:

I will post a different human rash each week, along with a seven day expiring poll with 10 'answers', one being correct.

These will be :mickeybar tastefully :ale:done photos, No nudity, No suffering Children, just lots of erythemia, urticaria, pus and bad spelling! Not to mention exudates! Did I remember to mention exudates?

Then each week, I'll post the correct answer along with some 'fun facts' about the particular rash, in laymanese!

So what do you think!

Please note that this is a PUBLIC poll, your vote & ID will be publically viewable!

-Tony

PS: We can start with the five most common exanthems of Childhood, working backwards from Fifth's Disease!!!!

[nono]

Hey Ynot,

Why not?

I voted Yes, but really, I wasn't as enthusiastic as you wrote it in the poll. :D

[greenban]

Ohhhhhh. Its 100% in favor so far!!!!!


I'm getting ITCHY with anticipation!

-Tony

P.S. nono, Ynot, said your check is in the mail! Remember vote early and vote often!

[greenban]

How fickle the electorate!

Down to 50-50 already.

Remember a yes vote supports the RASH 2008 election campaign, and will result in continuing support to the US farmers who raise the Hops for Yeungling!

Please Note: Ties will be determined by the Supreme Court of MouseOwners.com

No one named Chad may participate in this vote!

-Tony

[DisFlan]

Let me guess...you're a frustrated dermatologist?


DisFlan

[greenban]

Let me guess...you're a frustrated dermatologist?


DisFlan

So very close.......

I'm just.......


frustrated!


-Tony

P.S. Thanks for your vote, the check is in the mail!

[DisFlan]

You gonna do scabies? I just love scabies.

No, I am not going to make a crack about Fourth's disease. Good lord, I'm already itching.



DisFlan

[greenban]

You gonna do scabies? I just love scabies.

No, I am not going to make a crack about Fourth's disease. Good lord, I'm already itching.



DisFlan

Dear DisFlan:

Sure! After 1st through 5ths Disease, I'll jump to Scabbies, Lice and Crabs!

Hmmmmmm Perhaps seafood for dinner tonight........

-Tony

And after we run out of RASHES, there is always ticks, lamphreys and maggotts!!!!!

[Rozzie]

even though this reminds me too much of school, I say go for it.

Life is too short not too, right? :scratchch

[ErinC]

Tony, I guess you would think I would vote no, but I didn't! I do have a request though.... DD has eczema, so I'll take all the free medical info I can get on that!:) Any good new treatmens coming out? Of course look what happened to Elidel. Wasn't that supposed to be the latest and greatest?

[Colorado Belle]

NO PUS FOR US


Tho I proposed RAsh for PRESIDENT, I cannot help but feel this would be a stain upon a horse's mane.

Yeungling's aside, leave the gobby goo to the med journals.

[greenban]

Tony, I guess you would think I would vote no, but I didn't! I do have a request though.... DD has eczema, so I'll take all the free medical info I can get on that!:) Any good new treatmens coming out? Of course look what happened to Elidel. Wasn't that supposed to be the latest and greatest?


This is a tough and often heartbreaking disease (especially from a parent's perspective)

My recommendations:

1) Not every treatment works for every patient.
Since Elidel didn't work, have you tried the other class of immunomodulator, Protopic? (tacrolimus ointment)

2) You need a GOOD dermatologist, easy to say, hard to find.

3) You need a multi-etiologyapproach.
I like an integrated approach, consider (based on patient and her symptoms) allergen avoidance, skin drying avoidance (agressive mosturizing), Itching/scratching avoidance at all costs!, Diet, UV/Laser/IPL therapy, environmental factors, especially dust mites (any Asthma in the family). Some but not all patients have had good results with Skin-Zinc and Eczana, neither of which are FDA approved or proven in the treatment of Eczema, but frankly who cares.
Clothing and Linens-Pure Natural Cottons seem to be well tolerated. Keep nails short (because of scratching). Showers and Baths (baths preferred) should be cool to warm, never hot, avoid soaps. Double rinse clothes using the least amount of detergent and softener possible, and finally, maintain a positive outlook.

4) Identify and avoid the allergen(s) causing the eczema. This is hard work because it can be a food or environmental allergen, but if you can identify it/them, you have made a breakthrough.

Hope that helps!

-Tony

[lllovell]

oooo - good advice

and yet



you are SO BENT!!! ack :blech: Rash for President!!! but no rash of the week!

I have spent my lifetime trying to avoid rashes!!! (I mean...that is what college is about, no?)

:bagovermy

[jaysue]

Have had good results with Essential Oils (3-6-9) supplements and cholrine filters on the showerheads

Cheers
jaysue

:reporter:

[jaysue]

I voted Yes BTW

Cheers

:headbrick

[ErinC]

This is a tough and often heartbreaking disease (especially from a parent's perspective)

My recommendations:

1) Not every treatment works for every patient.
Since Elidel didn't work, have you tried the other class of immunomodulator, Protopic? (tacrolimus ointment)

2) You need a GOOD dermatologist, easy to say, hard to find.

3) You need a multi-etiologyapproach.
I like an integrated approach, consider (based on patient and her symptoms) allergen avoidance, skin drying avoidance (agressive mosturizing), Itching/scratching avoidance at all costs!, Diet, UV/Laser/IPL therapy, environmental factors, especially dust mites (any Asthma in the family). Some but not all patients have had good results with Skin-Zinc and Eczana, neither of which are FDA approved or proven in the treatment of Eczema, but frankly who cares.
Clothing and Linens-Pure Natural Cottons seem to be well tolerated. Keep nails short (because of scratching). Showers and Baths (baths preferred) should be cool to warm, never hot, avoid soaps. Double rinse clothes using the least amount of detergent and softener possible, and finally, maintain a positive outlook.

4) Identify and avoid the allergen(s) causing the eczema. This is hard work because it can be a food or environmental allergen, but if you can identify it/them, you have made a breakthrough.

Hope that helps!

-Tony

Thanks Tony, We do a lot of these things, but not all. Let me say that on a scale of 1 to 10 in severe cases, DD is only about a 5. I know that others have it much worse, but some days it just is a big pain. My ped. used to prescribe protopic, but I think DD finally just became immune because we had used it for so long. I do take DD almost 10 to a dermatologist (we only see him once a year). My ped. said I didn't need one, but I made the appointment and took her anyway. I'm not sure how good he is, but I taught his kid way back when, and he is always pleasant when we see him.(I guess that counts for something!) I'm holding out hope that when puberty hits, maybe she will get better. She currently uses Fluocinonide, and some cream in a large tub (tri-something). In all honesty I don't think she uses them quite like she should. I remind her, but she doesn't always remember. It mostly is on her knees, (front and back) and a couple of her fingers. It's more a problem in the summer, and trying to find sunscreen that doesn't irritate her has been hard. I'm sure you'll love this, but we have been seeing a chiropractor for a couple of years now. She told me that she had some patients that had seen major improvement in their skin. When we first started treatment (several times a week) I could see improvement on the backs of her legs. Now, since she only goes every other week, I don't think that it is working as well. Anyway thanks for the other tips. Oh, and I'm not familiar with these drugs, Skin-Zinc and Eczana, what are they, and where do you get them?

[ErinC]

Have had good results with Essential Oils (3-6-9) supplements and cholrine filters on the showerheads

Cheers
jaysue

:reporter:


Jaysue, we were posting at the same time I guess. I haven't tried those things either. Where do you find the Essential Oils (3-6-9).

DD uses Cetaphil soap, which seems to be working pretty well. Oh, and our Chiropractor keeps wanting me to put her on fish oil, but I just don't see how I can choke those huge pills down her! She is a very picky eater (no veggies) which I know doesn't help the skin situation.

[jaysue]

Some other things that have worked well for us:

Switching to kindler, gentler detergent soaps - scent free - Arm and Hammer for example or ones that you can buy from Natural Product Stores - less harsh than standard detergent soaps

Calendula Ointments to help heal rashes

100% cotton clothing as opposed to poly/cotton or synthetic blends

100% cotton bedding

Double rinse in the wash

Cheers
jaysue

[jaysue]

Jaysue, we were posting at the same time I guess. I haven't tried those things either. Where do you find the Essential Oils (3-6-9).

DD uses Cetaphil soap, which seems to be working pretty well. Oh, and our Chiropractor keeps wanting me to put her on fish oil, but I just don't see how I can choke those huge pills down her! She is a very picky eater (no veggies) which I know doesn't help the skin situation.

3-6-9 is an acronym for the different types of fatty acids the body needs to function correctly - we personally use Essential Balance and UDO's blends as our oils but there are other ones that will work as well - the Essential Balance has a kids butterscotch one that may help you deal with fish oil avoidance

http://www.florahealth.com/flora/home/canada/products/r7980.asp

http://allonhealth.com/health-products/aimega.htm

The veggies are an issue as well for overall health - it may be that her body has an acidic imbalance as well caused by the eating habits - we always think (unless it is a trauma situation) of underlying root cause and giving the body the tools to heal as opposed to treating the external facing symptoms - this has worked well for us in the past

Let me known if you want some veggie ideas - PM me - I will conference with DW and come back to you - our kids eat tons of veggies

cheers
jaysue

[greenban]

Even though I'm an MD, I have a very open mind (sheesh just look at most of my posts!)

I think diet, exercise, environment all are prime factors (as well as genetics) in eczema. I have no problems, and encourage complementary treatments, including (and not limited to) Accupuncture, macrobiotics, herbs, manipulation, hypnotism, etc. Anything that helps, and does not hurt in other areas is fair game with me. I agree, also with the tachyphylaxis (a medicine loosing its effectiveness with prolonged use, some of my patients had good results with switching medications, or classes of medications when this occurred, and then switching back, There is some very interesting claims being made with light therapy (LASERS and IPL). Finally I'm glad DD is a 5/10 case and not a 10/10.

Just curious, do you remember any really quiet periods (vacations, etc) or bad flares? I'm looking for circumstances to help narrow environmental allergens.

Finally, and I can't stress this enough, the search for more gentle detergents, cosmetics, household cleaners, etc., if sucessful, can produce amazing results, but it is very hard to do!

-Tony

PS on the issue of veggies, I would say eat one serving of each color of veggies, and fruits each day, for the right mixture of phytovitamins, minerals, vitamens and antioxidants. Although be very carefull with citric fruits!

PSS:

http://www.skinzincrelief.com/

http://www.neugenisis.com/eczana.htm

See not all us DOCS hate alternatives, and just want to use chemical solutions!

[ErinC]

Even though I'm an MD, I have a very open mind (sheesh just look at most of my posts!)

I think diet, exercise, environment all are prime factors (as well as genetics) in eczema. I have no problems, and encourage complementary treatments, including (and not limited to) Accupuncture, macrobiotics, herbs, manipulation, hypnotism, etc. Anything that helps, and does not hurt in other areas is fair game with me. I agree, also with the tachyphylaxis (a medicine loosing its effectiveness with prolonged use, some of my patients had good results with switching medications, or classes of medications when this occurred, and then switching back, There is some very interesting claims being made with light therapy (LASERS and IPL). Finally I'm glad DD is a 5/10 case and not a 10/10.

Just curious, do you remember any really quiet periods (vacations, etc) or bad flares? I'm looking for circumstances to help narrow environmental allergens.

Finally, and I can't stress this enough, the search for more gentle detergents, cosmetics, household cleaners, etc., if sucessful, can produce amazing results, but it is very hard to do!

-Tony

PS on the issue of veggies, I would say eat one serving of each color of veggies, and fruits each day, for the right mixture of phytovitamins, minerals, vitamens and antioxidants. Although be very carefull with citric fruits!

PSS:

http://www.skinzincrelief.com/

http://www.neugenisis.com/eczana.htm

See not all us DOCS hate alternatives, and just want to use chemical solutions!

Tony, I'm so glad that you see it that way...now if I could just find a chiropractor that didn't think all Doc's were out to kill us!! I can't remember the quiet periods very well. It does seem to move around in her body(if that makes any sense). She used to have a problem around her lips on her face when she was around 3, then slowly it just went away. She has some of her worst spots on her fingers, but just a couple of them. Her ring finger and her thumb on one hand are really bad, but then next year it might move fingers, strange. Flare ups, summer camp is the worst, between the heat and humidity, she has a really difficult time outdoors in the summer. As far as allergens, the only thing that I know she is allergic to is cats. Any time she goes to my SIL's I have to give her a dose of claritin. When she was younger the protopic was the quickest result medicine. She's probably been off of it for 3 years now. Maybe we could try it again. The older she gets the better it seems to get. Hopefully she will eventually grow out of it (is that even possible?).

[greenban]

Yes, it can really ease with age. I'm hoping that happens. One of my best friends, was stupid enought to let me treat his family when I was actively practicing. His beautiful Daughter has pretty severe eczema, and life threatening food allergies (The only case I ever saw in 15+ years of practice!)

I was always hoping she'd grow out of it, and of course she hasn't.

Being a Doc really stinks sometimes!

-Tony

[JimMIA]

Have had good results with Essential Oils (3-6-9) supplements and cholrine filters on the showerheadsI've had good results from a blend: 3 parts Scotts Weed 'n Feed for St. Augustine and 1 part Muratic Acid from the pool supply store.

But what I REALLY want to know is whether Greenbanned REALLY bought 1100+ points recently, or whether he's just pulling the ROFR thread's collective legs?

[Deep-Thots]

Despite the fact that the webmistress (who has just become aware of this thread/poll) has a good sense of humor and is fairly openminded about most goings-on in Community Hall, the webmistress is not at all interested in having a "rash of the week" thread in existence in Community Hall. Said webmistress' single negative vote automatically counterfeits and outweighs every "yes" and/or positive vote. In other words, no "rash of the week," Enuf said. Thanks.

Kim

[greenban]

Despite the fact that the webmistress (who has just become aware of this thread/poll) has a good sense of humor and is fairly openminded about most goings-on in Community Hall, the webmistress is not at all interested in having a "rash of the week" thread in existence in Community Hall. Said webmistress' single negative vote automatically counterfeits and outweighs every "yes" and/or positive vote. In other words, no "rash of the week," Enuf said. Thanks.

Kim

I would like to point out, that in the original post, I did state that you had the power!

-Tony

KIM:

A serious question.

Where can I buy this BBS software, and who do you recommend for hosting. I'm now think of a RASH BOARD instead of merely a subthread!

Perhaps the MouseScratchers, or DISitches, or Hanta-Virus-In Here, ItchSavers, The Infected Lodge, or just greenbanned?