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JimMIA
01-16-2006, 10:01 PM
I know a lot of people do more than Disney on their trips, so as a Florida native, I thought I'd start a non-Disney thread to give y'all some ideas on what else our state has to offer. And since I've sorta half-stumbled into a seasonal gig as a Park Ranger at Everglades National Park, I thought Everglades would be a good place to start...for me, at least. So here goes:

Everglades National Park encompasses most of the southern tip of Florida, from the Miami/Homestead/Florida City area on the East Coast to Everglades City on the Gulf Coast. The park contains 1 1/2 million acres, which makes it the third largest park in the lower 48 states, larger than all but Death Valley and Yellowstone. A big difference with Everglades, though, is that about 1.3 million acres of the park (87%) is designated wilderness area -- which means there can be no development of any kind (even by the National Park Service) without a 60% vote of both houses of Congress. The current Everglades National Park comprises about 1/6th of the historic Florida Everglades. Half of the original Everglades is now subdivisions, shopping malls, golf courses, and parking lots.

There is no place on earth like the Florida Everglades, for many reasons. It's the only place in the world alligators and crocodiles live side by side. It's the home (and primary breeding place, in most cases) for not one, but sixty-nine endangered and threatened species -- the last refuge for species like the Florida Panther, West Indies Manatee, Indigo Snake, Southern Bald Eagle, Wood Stork, and Cape Sable Seaside Sparrow. Everglades is a birder's paradise during the winter months and birders from all over the world visit to see our more than 350 species of birds -- many of them in large flocks. EVER is not only a National Park, it's also an International Biosphere Reserve, Wetland of International Importance, and World Heritage Site -- all U.N. designations. Although humans have lived in this area for more than 10,000 years (it's the scene of hundreds of protected archeological sites), many parts of EVER have never been fully explored. For the visitor, one of the most memorable experiences is walking within a few feet (hopefully 15 or more feet -- not too close!:tsktsk: ) of a large, live, real, and wild alligator.

There are three primary visitor access points for Everglades National Park: the main entrance SW of Homestead/Florida City, Shark Valley on the northern boundary of the park, and the Gulf Coast area in Everglades City on the west coast of Florida. An Entrance Fee ($10 per car) is charged at the main entrance and Shark Valley, but that fee is good for unlimited visits to any part of the park for seven days. In a nutshell, here's what those areas currently offer.

Main Entrance -- Once the primary visitor area, this part of the park is a shadow of its former self thanks to Hurricanes Katrina and Wilma. The Flamingo area, once the primary destination and site of the only lodge in the park, was devastated by 8-10 foot storm surges by both Katrina and Wilma.

The main attractions now are the Coe Visitor Center at the entrance to the park, and Anhinga Trail in the Royal Palm area just a few miles inside the park. The main park road is open 24 hours a day to Mahogany Hammock (about halfway to Flamingo), and all trails are open to that point. Long Pine Key Campground is also open.

However, everything below Mahogany Hammock is essentially closed. The road between Mahogany Hammock and Flamingo is open only from 6 AM to 6 PM.

There are currently no visitor facilities open at the popular Flamingo end of the main park road -- none: no water, no bathrooms, no lodge (and no plans yet to rebuild one), no camping, no hiking trails, no boat or canoe rentals, no interpretive programs, no boat cruises...nothing. The only thing open at Flamingo is one boat ramp to the Whitewater Bay backcountry area. There is also no backcountry camping anywhere in the Flamingo area, or in the southern half of the Wilderness Waterway. I do not expect the situation at Flamingo to change appreciably any time soon, and Flamingo -- quite frankly -- is not worth the trip.

Shark Valley -- I work at Shark Valley, so naturally I am biased, but I have always considered Shark Valley to be the real crown jewel of the Everglades. For one thing, it is smack in the heart of the Everglades -- on U.S. 41, 25 miles west of the Florida Turnpike in Miami and 70 miles east of Naples on Florida's west coast. The Shark Valley area is open 24 hours a day, but the vehicle parking lot is only open from 8:30 AM to 6 PM (You can walk in or bike in anytime).

Shark Valley is the heart (both geographically and emotionally) of Marjory Stoneman Douglas (River of Grass) country. Although completely blind by that time, Marjory had her 100th birthday party on the Shark Valley Observation Tower. Shark Valley IS the "River of Grass." SV's primary attraction is a 15-mile loop tram road which takes you deep into the actual heart of the Everglades. The road is closed to vehicles, but you can bike it or walk any part of it (24 hours a day), or you can take a two-hour open-air tram tour narrated by a Ranger, volunteer, or tram company naturalist. The tram tour takes you through the sawgrass prairie and tree island landscape to an observation tower 7 miles deep in the backcountry. The visitor portion of the tower rises 50 feet above the surrounding terrain, and you can sometimes see for 20 miles.

Other visitor opportunities at SV include a Shark Byte (20-30 minute talk by a Ranger or volunteer naturalist) at 2:15 PM each day; "Slough Slog" every Saturday afternoon, and Full-Moon Bike Tours each month. (this is the "season" schedule, from now to about the end of March) Fees are charged for the trams, bicycle rentals, Slough Slogs, and Full-Moon Bike Tours, but they are very reasonable.

Gulf Coast -- The Gulf Coast Visitor's Center is located on the South side of Everglades City (yes...there is a south side!), and it is the gateway to the Ten Thousand Islands area and the Wilderness Waterway. The Ten Thousand Islands area is the estuary area of mangrove islands and forests along the lower west coast of Florida. It is a very important historic area, the setting for Peter Mathieson's best-selling book, The Killing of Mr. Watson. Activities here include canoe and kayak tours, boat tours, interpretive talks, bike tours of Everglades City, and evening programs. There are fees for some of the programs, but the GC area itself is not a fee area. GC is also the place where you get permits for backcountry camping in the Wilderness Waterway.

For additional information, the best source is the park's website: www.nps.gov/ever NPS websites are a bit clunky, but clicking on "In Depth," "For Kids," and "Activities" will be your best bet. The main park info line is 305-242-7700, but we've been stuggling to get the HQ folks to answer the darn thing. If they don't answer, click on the "Contact us" link on the website and send them an email.

jnrrt
01-16-2006, 10:10 PM
Thanks for the info. That's very interesting, but sad about the flamingo area. I hope they do rebuild it.

JimMIA
01-16-2006, 10:19 PM
Thanks for the info. That's very interesting, but sad about the flamingo area. I hope they do rebuild it.I hate to say this, but I think that is unlikely. NPS has been chronically underfunded for 20-30 years and there are currently something like $8-10 BILLION in unfunded capital expenditure projects. By that, I mean projects which have been approved by Congress, but no money has been appropriated to actually build/rebuild them.

I'm not privy to the budget stuff as a lowly interpretive ranger, but I'll be surprised if we get our hurricane cleanup funded, much less any capital replacement.

KNWVIKING
01-16-2006, 10:20 PM
Yeah, but where are the roller coasters. Gotta have coasters. Isn't it a state law ?

DSNY FN
01-16-2006, 10:21 PM
Thakns Jim this is great. We usually take the kids to Merritt Island wildlife refuge we love the driving and walking trails our kids are huge outdoor and wildlife nuts. We also go to the manatee lookout near Kennedy space centre.

JimMIA
01-16-2006, 10:22 PM
Yeah, but where are the roller coasters. Gotta have coasters. Isn't it a state law ?Nope. State law says you have to have mosquitos. Everglades has 43 species of mosquitos (and I'm not making this up), so we're covered.

As you might guess, though, we don't have mosquito problems at Shark Valley.

jaysue
01-17-2006, 02:11 AM
That is too bad on the Flamingo part - we went down that way before kids and thought it was a really beautiful part of the United States - agreed on the mosquitos - one time I thought I would go for a walk down Snake Bight way - even with citronella, cutter and a couple of other things, I was covered in mosquitos within about 100 feet of setting out - :jawdroppi

The main entrance area took quite a hit from Hurricane Andrew as well (if I remember correctly) and never really recovered from that event

Thanks for the summary - we visited all the hammocks and trails between the main entrance and Flamingo - we thought the park was really special

Cheers
jaysue

JimMIA
01-17-2006, 02:25 AM
That is too bad on the Flamingo part - we went down that way before kids and thought it was a really beautiful part of the United States - agreed on the mosquitos - one time I thought I would go for a walk down Snake Bight way - even with citronella, cutter and a couple of other things, I was covered in mosquitos within about 100 feet of setting out - :jawdroppi

The main entrance area took quite a hit from Hurricane Andrew as well (if I remember correctly) and never really recovered from that event

Thanks for the summary - we visited all the hammocks and trails between the main entrance and Flamingo - we thought the park was really special

Cheers
jaysueSnake Bight has changed some since you were here...we caught a 17 foot Burmese Python down in that area a few weeks ago! Don't think they were here when you were. The Flamingo area has always had the worst mosquitos. I first visited EVER in the summer and took my kids to Flamingo. I didn't go back for five years because of the mosquitos! You just have to bathe in mosquito repellant.

The park came back fully from Andrew (at least the man-made part -- not sure about the Sparrow population, which was initially down about 50%). There is a new, and very nice visitor center as a result of Andrew.

If you thought the main park part was special, you should come to Shark Valley. You ain't seen nothing yet!

jaysue
01-17-2006, 02:38 AM
Snake Bight has changed some since you were here...we caught a 17 foot Burmese Python down in that area a few weeks ago! Don't think they were here when you were. The Flamingo area has always had the worst mosquitos. I first visited EVER in the summer and took my kids to Flamingo. I didn't go back for five years because of the mosquitos! You just have to bathe in mosquito repellant.

The park came back fully from Andrew (at least the man-made part -- not sure about the Sparrow population, which was initially down about 50%). There is a new, and very nice visitor center as a result of Andrew.

If you thought the main park part was special, you should come to Shark Valley. You ain't seen nothing yet!

Wow on the python! We were there in 94 or 95 (cannot remember exactly which year)

We intended to go to Shark Valley but ran out of time - maybe next time we are in South Florida way

Many thanks again for the info

cheers
jaysue

Colorado Belle
01-22-2006, 03:52 AM
Thanks Jim, for that great soundbite of info....I really like how you described the 'Glades!

I stayed in that motel in Flamingo, and yes, there WERE mosquitos. I can't stand using repellant, but I think the fact that I was once biten 176 times in one night gives me some immunity...that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Hmmmmm. How does one catch a 17 foot python???? ANd what does one do with one, once it is 'catched'?

Haven't made it to SV, but now I want to go...and do a full moon night bike ride to boot.

Pumpkinboy
01-22-2006, 03:59 PM
Any guesses as to Wheelchair accessibility at Everglades NP? We'd love to go some time, but worry DS might not be able to do much of the cool stuff.

We've generally stuck to more developed attractions, like Parrot Jungle, Miami Seaquarium and so on. For a side trip that is very HC accessible, we like the Kennedy Space Center.

brandip22
01-23-2006, 09:32 PM
I think the Full Moon Bike Tour sounds fun, too. Dh & I do some mountain biking, so I think we could have a ball doing that- sounds nice. Hopefully, we can plan some time on a future trip to get to the glades. Thanks for the info!

JimMIA
01-24-2006, 12:45 PM
Hmmmmm. How does one catch a 17 foot python???? VERY CAREFULLY! Sorry...couldn't resist.

Actually, it depends on where the snake is and how it is situated. If it's laid out on the ground, sometimes we'll grab its tail and drag it backwards until someone else can pin the head. That's a lot easier to do with a 6-8 foot snake than it is with a 10+ footer, which may weigh close to what we weigh. They will come back on you and they are capable of inflicting a very nasty, large bite. Sometimes the only safe way to get the snake is to shoot it.

Yesterday, we had one I don't think we could have caught if the visitor told us immediately instead of a half hour later. It was sunning in a tree, directly above 5-6 10+ foot alligators. I doubt if the LE guys would have had a clear shot, and we certainly were not going after it on foot! We could have moved the 'gators, but pulling a big snake out of a tree is difficult and dangerous.

ANd what does one do with one, once it is 'catched'?Depends on who catches it. If we get it, we kill it and turn it over to the researchers. Nobody likes to kill a beautiful snake, or any other wildlife for that matter, but it is necessary for the preservation and protection of the resource.

If the researchers catch it, they sometimes put tracking chips in some of the snakes and release them. That's what they did with the 17 footer! We were not happy with that decision!

JimMIA
01-24-2006, 12:55 PM
Any guesses as to Wheelchair accessibility at Everglades NP? We'd love to go some time, but worry DS might not be able to do much of the cool stuff.

We've generally stuck to more developed attractions, like Parrot Jungle, Miami Seaquarium and so on. For a side trip that is very HC accessible, we like the Kennedy Space Center.YES, Everglades is VERY accessible. You will find any National Park Service site very, very accessible, and I'm sure the same is true for most state parks.

At Shark Valley, ALL of our facilities are accessible, including the tram tours and the observation tower. Last weekend, we had two gentlemen "hike" the entire 15-mile tram road in ECV's! And yesterday, I had a boy in a motorized wheelchair on my tram. He was able to do everything anyone else did, including going to the top of the tower.